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And Tim Bryan was just saying like, it's hard to recognize what a UPF is.

How would I recognize a UPF?

Listening to all of this, it's just like one more step in my radicalization, I think, over the last really only, I would say, two years.

When I think back to before that, Tim, we hardly ever talked about ultra-processed foods.

So I think the shift in this focus on this part of what was going on is amazing.

And every time I hear more about it, it sort of makes me a bit

angrier, Brian.

Now, I would love to switch though from just sort of being frustrated to talk about actionable advice.

And obviously in general, I think we're going to have to talk about what individuals can do, but I am interested in what they might also be able to lobby for.

But maybe if I start at the individual level, Tim, what's the one thing that you would say to listeners they could do tomorrow in order to eat fewer harmful UPFs?

So Brian, I'd love to talk about what our listeners could be pushing governments about in terms of policy change.

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