Zoe Schiffer

We're talking about Ilya Sutskever, who's the former OpenAI chief scientist, who was part of the effort to briefly oust Sam Altman as CEO back in November 2023.

We also heard from Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, who was one of the earliest backers of OpenAI.

And finally, Sam Altman himself took the stand.

Brian, Leah, I feel like I'm so close to this.

I have two reporters who are in the courtroom every single day.

I'm curious for your perspective on everything we've heard so far.

What do you think about what's happened in this trial, which could be wrapping up, at least in terms of major testimony, Thursday this week?

What?

It was a suggestion.

It was a suggestion.

What?

I mean, this is crazy.

Just to back up a little bit, Elon Musk has had to convince the jury of two key things.

One was that he attached special conditions to the $38 million that he gave OpenAI in its very early days and that Greg Brockman and CEO Sam Altman violated those conditions.

The other one, and this is really tricky, is that he only realized that it had violated these agreements in like

2023 when Sam Altman was ousted as CEO.

And that's because the statute of limitations on this lawsuit like expired way before that.

He left OpenAI years before.

And so he's basically trying to start the clock around the time that Sam Altman left the company and then came back saying like, I didn't realize until then that things were as bad as they are.

I will say that from my perspective so far, he hasn't made a really strong case.