#96 - The Hon. John Ruddick - Government Trust, Immigration & Who Takes Power Next

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What is the current state of government trust in Australia?

Sam Bamford 0:15
Hi guys, welcome back to Two Worlds Clyde Podcast. On today's episode, we have the Honourable John Ruddock. I hope you guys enjoy.
Unknown 0:22
And that's it, we're live. John Ruddock, welcome to Two Worlds Clyde Podcast, mate. Thanks for coming on.
The Hon. John Ruddick 0:27
Terrific to see you, Sam. Thanks very much for having me. Congratulations on your podcast, which is really emerging as a force. And it's good to be back in the state that I was born in, South Australia.
Unknown 0:35
You were born here?
The Hon. John Ruddick 0:36
I was born in Mount Gambier. I left when I was three. But I've always, when it comes to Sheffield Shield and other things, Big Bash, I'm always sympathetic to South Australia.
Unknown 0:45
What about the AFL? Do you follow the rugby over in New South Wales? Follow the rugby league, yes. Yeah, and a lot of people get angry at me for calling it rugby.
The Hon. John Ruddick 0:54
Look, I fully understand why people who aren't into it don't know the distinction because it looks very similar, but they are very different cultures. They look similar, but the different people play them.
Unknown 1:04
Yeah, you get, I'm pretty sure rugby league is your public school kids and then union is your private school kids. That's what's been told to me in the army many years ago when I didn't understand.
The Hon. John Ruddick 1:15
Look, that's largely accurate. Rugby Union has also had over the decades a very good Aboriginal recruitment program. So, you know, Aborigines are really talented when it comes to rugby league. And a lot of them don't really, you know, they can be very good at the age of 10, but then they sort of don't make it by the age of 20. But Rugby Union was always very good. You're right, it's a private school sport. But they were very good at picking, just noticing particularly talent of Aboriginals. So that was one thing. Rugby Union did good.
Unknown 1:48
Yeah, that's good. Hey, can you do me a little bit of a favour? Yes. Just rip this mic a bit closer to your body. There you go. Okay. But, mate, hey, I want to talk to you about one thing with multiculturalism. Yeah. Because you put a bill through parliament the other, New South Wales parliament the other week. I did. Was it rejecting multiculturalism?
The Hon. John Ruddick 2:08
It was abolishing New South Wales multiculturalism, which is the Department of Multiculturalism, which costs us $75 million a year. And so we were just going to abolish it and replace it with nothing. Now, I've proposed the bill. Now we're going to have a debate on it in coming months. Now, we know the Labor Party and the Greens will vote against the bill. The really interesting thing, Sam, is what are the Liberals and the Nationals going to do? Okay, so it's sort of going to wedge them. Because I would guess 80% of people who vote Liberal or National would say, yeah, that's fantastic, Libertarian Party, let's abolish the Department of Multiculturalism. And I'd say 90% of Liberal Party members and National Party members would say, yeah, abolish it.
The Hon. John Ruddick 2:47
But their parliamentary team can be very weak. So it'll be good. But look, the Liberals and the Nationals did recently support a bill that we proposed, which is about uranium mining, which is banned in New South Wales. And we're trying to lift that ban. And the Liberals and the Nationals did do the right thing recently. So that was a positive.
Unknown 3:04
So do you think you have any success with this bill?
The Hon. John Ruddick 3:08
Well, look, even if we get it through the upper house, OK, with the Liberals and the Nationals, we would go close. But then we wouldn't be able to get it through the lower house. But it'll be a good symbolic move if we can say that one... you know, one half of the parliament has said we should abolish it. But look, by moving a bill like this, which we fully agree with it, what the best part about it, Sam, is we get 20 minutes to make the case before the whole parliament. And they can't do anything about it. And they've got to sit there. Now, sometimes the chamber, the parliamentary chamber, looks like it's quite empty, but there's about 500 people up in the offices watching. They've got to hear the case about why we shouldn't be wasting 75 million bucks on multiculturalism.
The Hon. John Ruddick 3:46
Now, the reason why I... Look, libertarians wanted to abolish overnight at least half the government departments.

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