How can I become more securely attached?
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So I'm at a park in the inner south of Sydney and I'm playing a game of tennis, but my opponent is a bit unusual. They are... about four meters tall, they're about eight meters wide, and they're built like a brick wall. Actually, they literally are a brick wall. This tennis ball is really good at returning whatever I throw at it, always with just a little bit less energy than what I send its way. And our guest today on All in the Mind says there's a life lesson in that.
He'll send me a text. Hi. We respond immediately back. It's like, hi. Then a week goes by. I don't hear anything.
Oh my gosh. I've been there.
But I don't do anything. I'm the wall.
From ABC Radio National, this is All in the Mind. I'm Sana Khadar. Today on the show, attachment and how to build a securely attached life.
Our brain really hates being ignored or being excluded. And it has significant psychological and physiological health consequences.
And what all of that has to do with the penis wall.
So one of the big misconceptions about attachment styles is that it's kind of set by the way your parents treat you in early life, and that's what you have for the rest of your life.
Oh, yes, it's definitely not that, because if you think about it, this is like our biggest strength, the way that we associate with other people.
This is Dr. Amir Levine. He's a psychiatrist and a neuroscientist at Columbia University, but you might know him from his extremely popular book, Attached, which came out back in 2010.
This is our biggest strength as a species because we're not particularly strong animals, yet we can make it to the moon and be in the North Pole and Antarctica because of our ability to collaborate and cooperate with one another. And it just wouldn't make sense that what happened to us in the age of like one or two is fixed for life. And that's what they find, that attachment styles can change at any time. And there's some studies that show that the parental contribution is actually not that big. It's less than 10% of our adult attachment styles. And another really more recent studies actually showed that some childhood friendships is actually more important than our parental relationships in early childhood.
And Amir says this malleable and constantly changing nature of our attachment styles means there's a lot that we can do to shape them. His latest book is called Secure.
And that's really the main thesis of this book is by designing your interactions with the here and now, you can change your attachment styles. And I really walk people step by step on how to do it.
Yeah, we'll get to some of those steps in a moment. But one thing I wanted to mention is there's an analogy in the book that I really like. You talk about the brain and compare it to skin in that, you know, we spend a lot of time and attention caring for our skin, applying sunscreen and moisturizing.
Especially in Australia.
Yeah, especially in Australia, a lot of sunscreen. So we protect the skin and we should similarly kind of protect the brain, our social brain. So the question I have is like, what do we need to do in order to ensure our brain is well moisturized, so to speak? Like, what should we be doing to protect it?
Yeah.
Yeah, we think about our brain as this organ that's tucked away in our skull, so protected, but it's actually one of the most environmentally sensitive organs that we have. It sends out these tendrils, our perceptions, and constantly checks to see what's happening in the environment. And so our brain really hates... being ignored or being excluded, it really pains us. And on the other hand, our moisturizer, our sunscreen, all of those good things is really if we can create like what I call a hyper-inclusive environment
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–6:52
2
What is secure attachment and why does it matter for health and longevity?
6:52–8:31
3
How can attachment styles change over a lifetime instead of being fixed by childhood?
8:31–26:29
4
What is CARP and how does being consistent, available, responsive, reliable and predictable build security?
26:29–31:19