Mia Changes Everything!

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Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present 1h 4m 5 speakers 2 chapters transcribed
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What is the Diddy Trial about?

Podcast Intro 1:04
But I will tell you.
Emily Simpson 1:05
It's very interesting for me as a lawyer to talk to you because it's not very often that I actually get the opportunity to talk to someone who has personal experience with a legal issue that we're discussing and that we're analyzing. So this is a win-win for both of us. So it's very exciting.
Aubrey O'Day 1:23
I agree. I can't wait. You can teach me how to catch a husband after you teach me the law.
Emily Simpson 1:28
All right. Well, we'll work on that.
Aubrey O'Day 1:30
OK, so with Mia, I just want to first establish two days of testimony. She still is going to be in cross on Monday. We ended today with Brian Steele cross examining her. For those that don't know, Brian Steele is in most cases probably one of the best, most effective lawyers on Diddy's side. And probably this was one of the worst crosses in the entire trial for me personally. It. ventured over into victim blaming which um at this point i think don the the therapist established for for the most part everybody's kind of established people that are victims do go back to their abusers they do uh have shame in their stories they do go back to things that are familiar in order to just forget and and not and pretend like it didn't happen in order to find normalcy again so
Aubrey O'Day 2:21
This contact back with abusers, this, you know, wanting to work back with them or communicate with them. It's a nothing burger for me at this point. If that's all you have, then you don't have much.
Emily Simpson 2:33
Well, I would agree with that. And I would say that's basically what the defense has. And that's what they're going to focus on on every single witness forward. It's always going to be. Why did you stay? Why were you there so long? Why did you engage? Why did you come back? Why did you keep showing up for work? And I thought it was really important that the prosecution did put Dawn on who I can't remember. Is she psychiatrists?
Aubrey O'Day 2:54
She's a forensic psychologist.
Emily Simpson 2:58
Right. And we know she also testified in the Amber and Johnny. Right. So but I thought it was really important that they brought her forward. And I'm sure you probably agree with that because that's the question that the jury has is why did people continue to go back? Why did they stay? Why did they show up for work the next day? Why did they spend years? And so it was important for her to come on. But you're you have your own personal experience in that realm. Yeah.
Aubrey O'Day 3:25
And for me personally, you know, I was fired on national television after years and years of leading up this band for being raunchy and promiscuous and bad for business, which none was true. I wish at the time we were in a. An era where things like Me Too and a lot of movements now that have occurred where you can go against corporations and you can sue people for wrongful termination and it is something that feels more available to us. Back then, even with parents as lawyers and very established lawyers surrounding me, no one gave me that idea. And now, of course, I'm past the statute of limitations. But I have seen what happens when you don't do what he wants and you get fired and you get blacklisted. And I experienced blacklisting and I know what that looks like. It's very real. The threat that everyone is saying about not wanting to be. Well, I got to the other side of it and it's real. It's actually a real thing and it does happen and it's humiliating and shameful and disgusting.

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