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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Sunita Sah (on defiance)

22 Jan 2025

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Full Episode

0.31 - 21.32 Dax Shepard

Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to Armchair Expert early and ad-free right now. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts, or you can listen for free wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert, Experts on Expert. I'm Dan Shepard. I'm joined by Monica Maus. Hi. Hello. Today we have Dr. Sunita Sawan.

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21.38 - 33.935 Dax Shepard

She is an award-winning professor at Cornell University and an expert in organizational psychology. She has a new book out called Defy the Power of No in a World that Demands Yes.

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34.736 - 36.539 Monica Padman

I loved this topic.

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36.959 - 37.26 Dax Shepard

Yes.

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37.801 - 44.811 Monica Padman

I think it's really important to know how to stick up for yourself, when to stick up for yourself.

45.171 - 51.599 Dax Shepard

Yeah, I see this book as being enormously helpful for a huge amount of the population.

51.679 - 51.919 Monica Padman

Yes.

52.32 - 62.132 Dax Shepard

It's very, very, very good. And also the amount of her own story she includes and acknowledges how hard it is for her, I think is always helpful.

62.432 - 79.257 Monica Padman

What we like on this show is sort of looking at the opposite side of it. And we talk in the episode and she starts the book with George Floyd and the rookie cops that were there. Yeah, yeah. And we get into all that and it's really fascinating and thinking about if you really put yourself in that position, what would you do? Yeah.

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