Sunita Sah (on defiance)
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Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to Armchair Expert early and ad-free right now. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts, or you can listen for free wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert, Experts on Expert. I'm Dan Shepard. I'm joined by Monica Maus. Hi. Hello. Today we have Dr. Sunita Sawan. She is an award-winning professor at Cornell University and an expert in organizational psychology. She has a new book out called Defy the Power of No in a World that Demands Yes.
I loved this topic.
Yes.
I think it's really important to know how to stick up for yourself, when to stick up for yourself.
Yeah, I see this book as being enormously helpful for a huge amount of the population.
Yes.
It's very, very, very good. And also the amount of her own story she includes and acknowledges how hard it is for her, I think is always helpful.
What we like on this show is sort of looking at the opposite side of it. And we talk in the episode and she starts the book with George Floyd and the rookie cops that were there. Yeah, yeah. And we get into all that and it's really fascinating and thinking about if you really put yourself in that position, what would you do? Yeah.
What would you do versus what you think you would do?
Yeah, and what you should do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And how you, yeah, some tools to make sure you do what you think you would do.
Yeah.
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What's more popular, Monica, for Indian kids, to be a Neil or a Monica?
They're both pretty common.
Because Neil I'm finding really is, if I'm life or death and I've got to guess what someone's name is, I got to go Neil. It just feels highest percentage. Yeah, yeah.
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