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Bannon`s War Room

Episode 4880: The Fall Of New York; Deport Mamdani

27 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What are the implications of the 22nd Amendment for Trump's potential 2028 run?

0.031 - 10.763 Steve Bannon

Trump is going to be president in 28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that. So what about the 22nd Amendment? There's many different alternatives. At the appropriate time, we'll lay out what the plan is.

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So, Bob, the 22nd Amendment, pretty plain as day. It's very clear a person cannot be elected to president more than twice. So what do you make of Bannon's comments? Plain as day, to be sure. The U.S. Constitution says two terms only. But what's also plain as day, Tony,

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is that President Trump is close to Steve Bannon, Steve Bannon's close to people in Congress, and many Republicans want to see the President re-nominated in 28, despite what the Constitution says. And that could create a real legal showdown. If he is re-nominated and the President accepts the nomination in 2028, again, despite the Constitution,

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You could have the Congress and the courts really face a standoff over whether this could move forward. And the courts would ultimately have a huge say, perhaps the say, over whether that could happen.

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But we're in such an unprecedented moment when you have the president's allies, some of his top allies like Steve Bannon, actively toying with the idea of pushing him to be the candidate in 2028 and 2040. Just see what happens. That's something that could be historic and also troubling for many Democrats who worry Trump's pushing the Constitution, pressuring it in an unnecessary way.

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Sir, Steve Bannon said in a recent interview that there could be plans for you to be able to run and potentially win a current term in 2028.

Chapter 2: How does the conversation shift to Steve Bannon's influence in politics?

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Is that something you'd be willing to challenge in court to be?

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90.313 - 104.254 Donald Trump

Well, I haven't really thought about it. We have some very good people, as you know. But I've had I have the best poll numbers I've ever had. I mean, I just solved eight wars and a ninth is coming. I believe Russia, Ukraine will happen.

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104.892 - 129.313 Donald Trump

we just did you know we just left and when you look at the treaty we just did that was a war that was thousands of people were already shot at the border and when you look at what we just did was pretty amazing pretty amazing we got a lot of a lot of good credit and i really have to thank malaysia for that because they're really the prime minister and everybody really helped get the two countries together but

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130.002 - 144.846 Donald Trump

It was quite a great peace treaty. But that was one of eight. And it makes me feel good. I mean, it's millions of people that we saved. I saved the lives of millions of people. That's what's important. Yeah.

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144.966 - 147.33 Naomi Wolf

Who are the very good people?

147.35 - 148.271 Donald Trump

They are good people.

148.291 - 151.757 Unknown

Well, you said that by 2028, they're very good people.

152.092 - 159.901 Donald Trump

Well, we have great people. I don't have to get into that, but we have one of them standing right here. We have J.D., obviously.

Chapter 3: What are the legal challenges surrounding Trump's potential candidacy?

159.921 - 184.807 Donald Trump

The vice president is great. I think Marco's great. I think... I'm not sure if anybody would run against those. I think if they ever formed a group, it would be unstoppable. I really do. I believe that. I would love to do it. I have my best numbers ever. It's very terrible. I have my best numbers. If you read it... Am I not ruling it out? You'll have to tell me.

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184.887 - 189.551 Donald Trump

All I can tell you is that we have a great group of people, which they don't.

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One theory on how you might try to serve a third term is that you could run as the vice president.

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195.016 - 196.277 Donald Trump

Yeah, I'd be allowed to do that.

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Is it the White House or the White House counsels or your legal position?

200.902 - 212.016 Donald Trump

No, you'd be allowed to do that, but I wouldn't do it. I think it's too cute. Yeah, I wouldn't rule that out because it's too cute. I think the people wouldn't like that. It's too cute. It's not it wouldn't be right.

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There's a plan. Trump will be president in 2028. I want to start here. This is the only way for Steve Bannon to get attention right now. He's out of the loop in this White House. It's not like the first term.

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And I am seeing on social media a lot of Democrats clapping like seals and doing exactly what Steve Bannon wants them to do, which is talk about Steve Bannon and his Bengali-like effort to keep Trump in power when he's an 83-year-old geriatric.

Chapter 4: How is Trump's foreign policy impacting domestic issues?

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I think that... We should look at this logically and look at it strategically because that's what Steve Bannon's doing. Steve Bannon isn't like letting you guys in on a little secret that they have a secret plan to keep Trump in power. Steve Bannon is running an angle. Like this is an angle. This is a bit. He wants attention for himself.

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He wants to throw this out there in the hopes that things develop that way. And I don't think that we should play into his hands. I think that we should counter it. As I mentioned, Trump will be 83. Who knows what will happen in that guy's addled brain in the fall of 2028 when he's 82 years old? Would he be capable of running another race? Would he be capable of overtime?

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Would he maybe just be happy that he got the ballroom named after him and they're going to mint a coin with his face on it? It's hard to predict. And that's why the right way to look at this is... probabilistically, through probabilities. You have a lot of pundits. You're incentivized in the pundit sphere to come on in a moment like this and be like, see, he's going to do it.

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Trump is trying to stay in 2028. Or to go out there and be like, Trump's never going to be able to stay. There's no chance he's going to stay. That is how you make a point on one of those panels with Scott Jennings on CNN. The truth here is that It's a possibility. The right way to think about this is that can we completely wave this off? Of course not. Is he absolutely going to do it?

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I don't know.

Chapter 5: What role does economic populism play in the upcoming elections?

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It doesn't seem like it to me. Who knows? A lot can happen. The future is unknowable. And so you think about this as, well, does it seem like they're going to try? Is it a possibility? Yeah, it is. It is a possibility. And we should take that possibility seriously. Looking beyond President Trump, what should Americans hope for in foreign policy?

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What should the priority be for the next president, given this battle between autocrats and Democrats and the United States' shifting role right now within it? Well, that's a great question. And in fact, my book is written for, if we're gonna be in this new Cold War for decades, my book is written for decades, not just what to Trump do tomorrow.

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And in my world, there's kind of three big debates, right? Isolationism versus engagement. I'm firmly on the engagement side, and these isolationist tendencies in our country scare me. Reminds me of the 1930s. That's a disaster. Second big debate, unilateralism versus multilateralism. Do we just do whatever we want, or do we play along with the rules of the game with our allies?

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I'm firmly on the multilateral side, and I make the arguments for why we should be. I don't like the unilateralism of President Trump. Short term, sugar high. Long term, we alienate the world. And then finally, most controversially, there's a debate between those that say we should promote democracy in the world and those that say that's not our problem.

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I've looked at 250 years of history, especially the Cold War, And we have been hypocritical from time to time. Don't get me wrong, right? Apartheid South Africa was our allies during the Cold War.

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But in the long run, I think making democracy promotion a key pillar of American foreign policy has served us well in the past and will serve us well deep into the 21st century, even if President Trump today disagrees with me.

Chapter 6: What concerns are raised about the current state of New York politics?

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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

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And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

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496.854 - 506.843 Stephen K. Bannon

War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.

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506.863 - 529.784 Steve Bannon

It's Monday, 27 October, Year of Our Lord 2025. President Trump, now in Japan... And there's going to be – he's going to meet the emperor. He's going to meet the new head of the government. They'll talk to the finance minister, the key meetings. But his trip to Asia so far has just been a stunning success, one after the other after the other.

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530.525 - 539.595 Steve Bannon

The key to make sure you don't miss it is Scott Besson, the secretary of treasury, has worked out a framework. We don't know the details of that.

539.727 - 566.629 Steve Bannon

Knowing Scott, it's not going to kowtow to the Chinese Communist Party, but we do have an inkling that the knife to our throat, that is the new restrictions, the export restrictions on the heavy rare earths, is going to be delayed at least a year and maybe two, which would be a game changer for everything we're trying to work on here in the reindustrialization of the United States and should be an object of

567.571 - 595.013 Steve Bannon

lesson to those globalists who allowed all the processing capability to go to the Chinese Communist Party. So whether it is generic drugs, anything on the supply chain, ball bearings, what have you, component pieces, the Chinese Communist Party is prepared to send a flare-up for economic – full economic warfare against the United States. They are our mortal enemy. Now, it doesn't mean –

594.993 - 606.506 Steve Bannon

If you have a mortal enemy, you can't reach some sort of rapprochement, at least on the interim basis. Scott Besson has announced he has a framework. It will not include us going to 100 percent tariffs.

Chapter 7: How does Mamdani's campaign reflect broader political trends?

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We don't know what it entails with Taiwan. They have announced that the president is going to meet now Thursday, Korea time in South Korea, that she and President Trump are going to meet. So – and we will cover this live when we get to a specific time. But we assume right now that we're going to be live at approximately 10 p.m.

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Eastern Daylight Time on Wednesday night to basically cover this historic meeting. They've also implied – haven't been official statements. They implied that President Trump is going to go to China in January. And that she would then come back to the United States, either a meeting at the White House and or Mar-a-Lago.

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My money would be on Mar-a-Lago, and he would do that either in the summer or the fall. So a tremendous amount of what this trip has really been for President Trump. is to engage directly with Scott Besant, with the Chinese Communist Party, and make sure that we can work something out.

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668.361 - 685.783 Steve Bannon

Now, look, we're the decoupling faction, and we think the historical record proves correctly that we should have decoupled and we must decouple at some point in time because they're going to continue –

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685.763 - 706.124 Steve Bannon

to reach for a knife to our throat whenever they can because there are mortal enemy, mortal enemy of the Chinese people, Lao Bai Jing, and mortal enemy of the United States and citizens of the United States. That being said, President Trump is trying to accommodate and trying to balance many things as he tries to bring the Third World War to an end.

706.184 - 732.324 Steve Bannon

He's had another peace treaty in Southeast Asia, signed another – group of trade deals which were very important in showing the Chinese Communist Party that you can be isolated on commercial relationships financially by East Asia he's going to Japan right now to send that message also he'll be in South Korea even though that's led by a party that is very close to the Chinese Communist Party.

732.384 - 751.59 Steve Bannon

President Trump has sent in the message whether it's in Kuala Lumpur or whether it's in Japan or whether it's in Korea. He's also announced he's prepared to stay longer. And President Trump, if you know him, is not a person that likes to take long overseas trips, but he's prepared to stay longer to meet with the head of North Korea.

752.451 - 771.147 Steve Bannon

The only shortcoming or problem with it, he doesn't have time to go to the Philippines anymore. And Taiwan would love to go into Taiwan, but not going to do that. Although Taiwan is going to come up in this discussion on Thursday. Just watch. Also, huge wins over the weekend. And you've got to balance this with what's happening here domestically.

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But Scott Besant looks like his bet on Argentina paid off. It certainly saved Millay. Right. Absolutely saved him as he the comeback he had was overwhelming vis-a-vis where he was when he got skunked in these local elections about a month ago. Scott Besant properly thought through that this was a strategic deal to support the Argentine peso to keep Malay in and keep him in. He did.

Chapter 8: What strategies are suggested for countering radical political movements?

848.305 - 878.226 Steve Bannon

And hemispheric defense, one of the foundational elements of it, is making sure that we take care of Latin America. We don't have left-wing communist pro-CCP governments like Lula in Brazil. I know we're playing footsie with Lula right now because of the rare earth. So a lot going on strategically. President Trump, the tour so far is nothing short of triumphant. Triumphant. Triumphant.

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879.134 - 907.338 Steve Bannon

It's one stop after the other, either a massive trade deal or bringing wars to an end. President Trump's in Japan. We've got a packed show today. Alex Jones, Laura Loomer, Mark Mitchell. Let's get on with it. You're in the war room. I want to tell you about a new offer from our sponsor, Birch Gold, Veterans Day Free Silver. Buy gold and get free silver. That's right.

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993.58 - 998.787 Steve Bannon

Uh, welcome back.

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