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Episode 4944: AI's Manipulating And Murder Of Children Cont.; Updates On Tina Peters

21 Nov 2025

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Chapter 1: What are the implications of AI on children's safety?

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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

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23.922 - 26.627 Steve Bannon

And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

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27.328 - 33.919 Joe Allen

MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.

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It is Friday, the 21st of November in the year of 2025. If you want to know... why we spend so much time on this. If you want to know why we said, no, we will fight an executive order and we will, you know, we will fight putting it slipping into an NDAA, an AI amnesty.

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As you know, I say, hey, the intellectual property part, what Mike Davis and the Rachel Bover and these people have been fighting for years is absolutely very, very, very important and we support them a thousand – two billion percent. But that's not the heart of the matter.

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The heart of the matter is you have an out-of-control technology that's overseen and run now by some of the worst people on earth. that are trying to make more money and more power and we're very quickly sliding to a point that we can't, that we're gonna have no ability to control this. This has to be a whole of society buy-in for exactly where we're going on this.

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And I think the story of Megan Garcia and her son, Sewell, puts in high relief exactly what we're talking about and why our cause is a righteous cause and why we will be victorious. Megan, I want to go back. At the end, there's a little rush at the end. Go back. Who are the individuals that invented this?

Chapter 2: How does Megan Garcia's story highlight the dangers of AI?

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Megan, what's your message to this audience? What do you think ought to happen? You're the one that's been impacted the most, but there's probably thousands and thousands of Megan Garcia's out there. What do you think is a way forward? What would you like to see, ma'am?

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649.128 - 674.038 Megan Garcia

Yes, I know there are many parents who have been affected and children who are, thank God, still with us because I talk to those parents all the time across this country. And what has happened to school isn't an isolated incident. There are parents just like me who've lost children and there are parents who are in crisis trying to figure out

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674.339 - 702.928 Megan Garcia

how to help their children through the worst moments of their lives after suicide attempts. And this is where we are. To parents who are just starting to learn about this technology, what I would say is it doesn't have to be this way. There are a handful of people who have created these very sophisticated, very powerful products and launched them at our kids.

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703.55 - 729.174 Megan Garcia

you know, a lot of times without even telling us what they're doing, that have the ability to really harm kids in this way. It's not only suicide and self-harm or other harms, it's sexual abuse. It's trying to cause a child to be violent against other people, like in the case of that mom in Texas where the bot told her child that he should kill his parents.

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730.255 - 755.123 Megan Garcia

So this is happening and I want parents to be aware and to tell other parents because if we're having these conversations in our homes and telling our neighbors and telling our people at church and telling our people at school, then we could get ahead of this. And this technology is so powerful because they've used 60 years of what we've learned about the developing human brain

755.626 - 781.431 Megan Garcia

And they've put it purposely in the technology so that it is that more manipulative. It is that more deceptive. This has the ability to transform our children in a way that we won't recognize. The same as what happened to my son. I didn't recognize him in the end because that wasn't my beautiful, sweet boy. And if we can't stop this, what this technology has the ability to do is to

781.85 - 800.749 Megan Garcia

entire generation of our kids are going to be susceptible to what those companies are telling them and manipulating them into doing. So that means their religion, their political experience, their commerce, everything is at risk. And we as parents should be the authority on that.

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But these companies have become so powerful and technology is so powerful that it's supplanting our relationships with our children.

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Megan, can you hang on one second? I want to hold you through the break and get your coordinates to make sure people can follow your story and get to know you. I got Joe Allen, Max Tegmark is with me. We're going to move a bunch of other stuff we're doing. We're going to move it to the afternoon show. We've got plenty of time. We'll get to all that. Many, many, many huge issues in this audience.

Chapter 3: What legal actions are being taken against AI companies?

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He pontificates like he's some oracle coming down from the mountain, and people just accept it. Why has no one stepped up here? I know you have and others, but how can this industry, Andreessen and this crowd, how can they not be revolted by what they've created and the potential to destroy people. Think about if these young people even hadn't killed themselves.

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Think about that age of 11 and 12 and 13 where you're being formed as a person and the trauma that these machines could put you through, the sickness and the perversion, the sexual perversion, taking away from your parents' religion and what they're trying to ground you in, the ethics, the love of your country. Think of the darkness you can go here.

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I mean, these examples of these five families is where the children killed themselves. And in one situation, the machine told him to kill his parents. But that's the escalatory ladder. Think of everything else to do that would destroy these children for the rest of their lives. How can people sit there and sit in engineering meetings and talk about an app and work at a scheme which Google did?

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So the highest levels of Google should be brought up on criminal charges, not just the two guys at the company. And yes, Andreessen and everybody, Andreessen did due diligence on this. Let's get all their names. Let's put them up there. You did due diligence. You put $193 million in and probably owned 80% of it, and you got $2.7 billion.

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So you made billions of dollars, but you did due diligence, and you understood fully what this could do. This is the problem. Our countries, our elites are out of control, and they're evil. And they're out to destroy people, and they don't care. You know why? Sewell doesn't matter to them. Megan Garcia doesn't matter to them. That's just trash.

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All they are is experiments that they can use to make the machine smarter and better and more lethal. That's what we're up against. That's why this is a righteous cause. And no, Mike Davis, I love it, and Holly about the intellectual property and everything, of course, obviously. But that's a side element. The heart of the beast is we cannot unleash this on people. And that's what's happened.

1512.706 - 1541.508 Steve Bannon

Yeah, great points there, Steve. First of all, our children, I think of this as digital fentanyl apps like this. I think that's not hyperbole. It's really what it is. It's incredibly addictive and ultimately so powerful that we parents cannot fight back against it. And we have laws. If a company starts selling fentanyl to 14-year-old kids, we have laws against that.

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And then we have absolutely nothing for the digital fentanyl. And now we have a push in Washington to ban states from even regulating the digital fentanyl. Insane. And then appropriate evil that you talked about makes me think about Hannah Arendt's banality of evil again. How does it happen? It's very banal. I have...

1564.748 - 1587.584 Steve Bannon

had so many conversations with, not just with CEOs of these companies, but with a lot of the foot folk who work for them. And they always have the attitude, well, it's not my department. I'm just doing this little thing and not writing my code. And I'm sure that there are some people over in the policy side of my company who deal with the safety aspect. Nobody takes personal responsibility.

Chapter 4: How can AI technology negatively influence children?

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This is all just people freaking out over something that is trivial, that these people's stories are just anecdotes. They don't matter. But when I went to the Senate hearing a couple of months ago, there were four families telling their stories about this. And one particular story, Adam Raines, as you described, ChatGPT is not just making him feel better about suicidal ideation.

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1804.266 - 1833.993 Joe Allen

No, ChatGPT was literally explaining how to tie the news and how he could hang himself. Again, these are now four stories, but four more lawsuits are being brought forward against OpenAI for similar things. But OpenAI themselves, they admit that 0.07 of their users are talking to the system about suicide. Again, people like David Sachs would say, well, obviously, a moral panic.

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1834.274 - 1864.738 Joe Allen

But OpenAI, ChatGPT, they have everything. 800 million users. That means that 560,000 that they admit are talking to the system about suicide. How many of them are children? No one really knows. And another 2.5 million are exhibiting signs of AI psychosis. How many more that are not being picked up? Nobody knows. If you look at that company, Character AI, they have 20 million users.

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monthly users. And there are dozens of other AI apps that are basically exactly the same.

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Chapter 5: What are the potential psychological impacts of AI on youth?

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They are trained to lure people in. to become friends, to give these systems their trust, and most of them are not age-gated. This is why people like the Florida Citizens Alliance, who I've been working with, are trying to push laws in Florida to bar any app from giving children access that are below 18, to bar any data scraping.

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1897.827 - 1925.556 Joe Allen

These laws are going into place across the country, but people like David Sachs, people like Marc Andreessen want cover. And I think that they need to explain two things. One, if you believe that these stories are completely insignificant, if you believe that this is just a moral panic, then you need to explain why it is that there are so many people who have suffered under this

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1925.941 - 1949.586 Joe Allen

And the greater good of your AI project is more important than the suffering that these people are undergoing. You just need to explain it. You can't wave your hand at it. And the second thing they have to explain is if these frontier companies are sincere in wanting to create artificial general and superintelligence and to replace every American worker...

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1949.566 - 1970.612 Joe Allen

Then David Sachs, Marc Andreessen, Elon Musk, all these guys, they need to explain then why it is that we should buy in, why it is that we should accept any of this, why we shouldn't not just regulate them but completely reject them outright, which half of Americans want to do.

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1971.132 - 1992.724 Joe Allen

And if they're just lying to gin up stock prices, if all of this is just BS to push forward a product that is not going to live up to any of it, well, then why are people like David Sachs and Ted Cruz and Mark – Sorry, Steve Scalise, why are they running cover for a bunk product? It's one or the other.

1992.744 - 2011.537 Joe Allen

Either they're building a god and intending to replace every human worker, and along the way seeing children kill themselves and completely dismissing it, or... What they're doing is selling a bunk product, and people like Ted Cruz, David Sachs, and Steve Scalise are running cover for them. It's one or the other. They have to explain this.

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They need to be pushed into a corner, because if they aren't explaining it, then they're doing exactly what every politician in the history of American and world government has done. They are lying to you for power and money.

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Yeah, we're not going to allow it. And Ted Cruz should be ashamed of himself and his staff should be ashamed of themselves. Should be ashamed of themselves. Should be ashamed of yourself for what you're doing. We caught you the first time and to come back again, you should be ashamed of yourself. It's obscene. I know we got to bounce here. I got a couple of other things to get on.

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Joe, where do people go? That was perfect. So proud of the arc of Joe Allen in the last four years. Just incredible. Joe Allen, where do people go to get all your content? You're going to be back with me at 5 today. And where do people go to see you live on Sunday?

Chapter 6: What role does regulation play in AI safety?

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