BIB on the Go: How The Garrett Crochet Trade Truly Game Together
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What is the significance of the Garrett Crochet trade?
Maybe they gain momentum. An example last year was the Garrett Crochet trade, right? Everybody knew, including Chris Getz, that he was probably going to be trading Garrett Crochet. And so it was just figuring out where he was going to trade him. And obviously the GMs were part of that. Out of the GM meetings, how did those teams feel? How did Chris Getz feel? Well, it's also a lesson learned. of what the perspective of is from these teams, from these executives when they get out of the GM meetings. Maybe some are more optimistic than they should be. Maybe they're not optimistic enough. I don't know. But I caught up with the two people who ultimately made the Garrett Crochet trade. And that would be Craig Breslow, Chief Baseball Officer of the Boston Red Sox.
To get his perspective of what he felt coming out of the GM meetings. And then I got Chris Goetz, the GM of the White Sox. His perspective of how he felt coming out of the GM meetings.
How did the GM meetings influence trade decisions?
All the way up until they made the trade in early December. So... It is a great, great lesson, this soundbite, this baseball isn't boring on the go, about how this stuff works and also how it's not necessarily the exact same mindset when it comes to how the two different teams feel regarding getting a trade done or how far down the road they are in making a trade. All right, here you go. Thought you might want to listen to it again. Baseball's been boring. Greg Breslow first, Chris Goetz second. What do you remember about this time talking to Chris?
I remember we had conversations the off-season of 23 to 24 about crochet, and at the trade deadline about crochet, and then obviously last off-season. So your first off-season, your first, okay. I think... What I remember is this was like right around the time where it started to feel real, where we started to agree on some of the big pieces and move toward, okay, who was the second, who was the third, who was the fourth piece? And we had some conversations in person. We also left here and I can remember going back and forth over text when I would put my daughter to sleep and I would sit in the chair next to her and couldn't really speak on the phone because I would keep her up and we would just text back and forth.
This is after the GMA. This is after the GMA. Like, what about this guy? What about that guy? You know. Well, would you include him? No, but I think this is dead. And it would be a couple days later, and then we would spark it up again. So there were nearly infinite permutations of this deal that went back and forth. How much did it change? A fair amount early on. And then it became clear...
What perspectives did Craig Breslow share about the trade process?
okay, you know, it's going to need to be these two guys maybe and then, you know, what does the third piece look like?
What does the fourth piece look like? They basically, they were like, we need these two guys and we can go from there. Right, right.
And I think that's the most productive way to try to advance these conversations. Like, It doesn't make a ton of sense to get bogged down in who the fourth piece is if you're not going to agree on the lead piece. So I think it's kind of like, hey, if there's a framework around Kyle Thiel, let's spend some time on it. If not, it's going to need to be this guy or that guy.
What insights did Chris Getz provide regarding the trade negotiations?
Otherwise, there's just no balance.
When I say how, you know, we timeline, I go back, you know, whether it's... Deadline, I don't know if you remember from the day, like the Seas deadline, the Crochet deadline, the Joe Ryan deadline, things like that. The price is exponentially, I don't want to say exponentially, but it's different, right? You're laying the groundwork, but it's different.
It tends to be different because you have a much better idea of who you are and what you need, and also you're getting an additional playoff run. So just the control is different. And there's like... there's something about the emotional nature of a deadline. Like okay, we need to put our best offer forward right now because in two minutes we literally cannot do a deal. So, I think that's helpful in some ways.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the significance of the Garrett Crochet trade?
0:00–0:59
2
How did the GM meetings influence trade decisions?
0:59–3:08
3
What perspectives did Craig Breslow share about the trade process?
3:08–3:40
4
What insights did Chris Getz provide regarding the trade negotiations?
3:40–4:31
5
How do different teams perceive trade momentum?
4:31–8:44
6
What challenges arise during trade negotiations?
8:44–9:07
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