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Baseball Isn’t Boring

Presser: David Stearns On Mets 2025 Collapse And The Potential Path Forward

29 Sep 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. Without further ado, I'd like to turn it over to Mets President of Baseball Operations, David Stearns.

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7.28 - 38.268 David Stearns

All right. Thanks, Ethan. Thanks, everyone, for showing up. I'll start out with a couple of quick thoughts here, and then obviously happy to answer any and all questions. Tremendously disappointing season. Not nearly good enough. I think we all know that. We came into this year with, deservedly so, very high expectations, and we didn't come close to meeting them. And I'm keenly aware of that.

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I'm the architect of the team.

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Chapter 2: What were David Stearns' initial thoughts on the Mets' disappointing season?

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I'm responsible for it. I understand how frustrated our fan base is. I understand how frustrated everyone in this building is today, everyone associated with the Mets. And we got to do better. And I'm committed to moving us forward and doing better. We'll have ample time here, I'm sure, to discuss the what and the why. I'll start off up top with a few of my overarching observations.

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76.93 - 105.975 David Stearns

From a roster construction perspective, on the run prevention side of the ball, we didn't do a good enough job of fortifying our team when we had injuries mid-season. Clearly, that was a point in our season where on the run prevention side of things, we went from a very good team to a team that wasn't good enough to maintain a sizable lead, not only in the division, but in the playoff chase.

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106.63 - 132.918 David Stearns

Our defense wasn't good enough, and that certainly contributed to our pitching challenges. And then offensively, we had a number of players who had really good years, but we failed to score the runs that we needed to score despite those really good years. And so you add all that up, and you get to a team that underachieve greatly.

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134.2 - 145.978 David Stearns

We know that, I certainly know that, and we're gonna work really hard to fix that going forward, learn from this, and do a heck of a lot better. So happy to answer any and all questions.

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Talk with Andy.

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David, this would be a fair question to ask a number of people, but as you're the one that's here speaking to us right now, what could you have personally done differently to prevent these issues that you just described from happening?

163.958 - 192.068 David Stearns

Yeah, I either make or delegate every decision that's made here. So you point to a decision that that didn't work out and I'm responsible for it. And so, you know, we have all the resources we need. We have tremendous ownership support. We have tremendous fan support. And clearly we had segments of our team that were not good enough. And that's on me.

192.088 - 196.195 Andy

And are you prepared to say that Carlos will definitely be the manager next year?

196.235 - 197.376 David Stearns

Yeah. Carlos is coming back next year.

Chapter 3: What changes does David Stearns believe are necessary for the Mets moving forward?

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But the entirety of our run prevention unit was not good enough this year.

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Will?

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357.641 - 382.688 David Stearns

Hey, David, going forward, what do you see as the most fixable thing for this club? Yeah, I mean, I'll keep harping on run prevention. That is where we fell short this year. It's where we need to get better. I think we will. I think that improvement can come both internally and externally. I very much believe in our player development apparatus. I believe we're developing very good pitchers.

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383.149 - 402.172 David Stearns

I think we're going to continue to do that. And that's going to continue to be an emphasis. Just even over the offseason, you went short term with starting pitchers and then you did not trade for one at the deadline. Has this season changed your philosophy at all when it comes to external acquisitions on the starting pitching front? I think we have to be open to everything.

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402.392 - 427.22 David Stearns

I think my continued emphasis is doing everything we can to support our development infrastructure and developing starting pitchers. Ultimately, that is where We're going to have sustained success and get to the organization a consistently good start, a consistently good spot from a run prevention perspective. But going into this offseason, I'm not going to take anything off the table. Joel?

428.783 - 454.798 David Stearns

Dave, a few things. In your opening statement, you said we have to learn from this. What did you learn from this for moving forward? Yeah, look, I think... On a number of levels, there are areas where we can probably be a little bit more proactive and I can be a little bit more proactive. I think some of these lessons we're still investigating and still

455.352 - 472.686 David Stearns

Fully understanding various aspects of our team. But there are clearly times in the season, times over the offseason where I can be a little bit more proactive. Can you dig down on that? What does that mean to be proactive in what areas in what way?

472.666 - 495.113 David Stearns

I'm not going to get into specific transactions, specific forms of transactions, but there are areas where maybe we can get a little bit more aggressive. And just maybe I'm using a different term, just the last thing is a sense of urgency about, like you said, some of those trades might have made your fans even sicker about it.

495.093 - 519.422 David Stearns

It feels like to get the free agent you might want or get the trade you might want, there needs to be some irrationality. Do you work in one of those marketplaces where there needs to be some irrationality and maybe even more than you're comfortable with? Yeah, I think urgency is the right word. I do think urgency is the right word. And I think we have demonstrated that at points.

Chapter 4: What could David Stearns have done differently to prevent the team's collapse?

712.202 - 717.928 David Stearns

I mean, that's an inexplicable stat. And I'm not going to hear him make up an answer for it.

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Laura. Just with regards to the offense, why do you think they failed to make in-game adjustments, especially towards the end of games?

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727.077 - 755.967 David Stearns

I think there were definitely periods where we – where we would score runs and then maybe have three, four innings where we weren't particularly active offensively. I think there were times where pitchers got a little bit sharper, times where we probably could have made an in-game adjustment to an approach and didn't.

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756.428 - 762.396 David Stearns

I think that's going to be part of what we talk about, what we assess, and try to improve there.

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And also, I mean, obviously you guys had to rely on a lot of young talent. I mean, are you concerned at all about how that might affect their development, especially someone like Jonah Tong, who maybe struggled, or Ronnie Mauricio, who didn't really see a lot of playing time?

774.155 - 792.653 David Stearns

No, I think both those players saw, I think, meaningful playing time. Ronnie a little bit earlier when he came up. Jonah started a number of games for us. So I think their time in the big leagues will actually benefit their overall development.

793.139 - 799.628 Disha

Disha? Hey, David. Do you believe lack of leadership was an issue this season, either within the clubhouse or on the coaching staff?

799.929 - 809.463 David Stearns

I don't. I think we have leaders in our clubhouse. I think we had leadership in our clubhouse. I did not think that was a problem.

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Do you think then they should have been able to maximize the potential on the roster if there was leadership there?

Chapter 5: How does David Stearns evaluate the coaching staff's performance?

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Are you going to look at that a little more seriously?

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939.39 - 957.642 David Stearns

I'll repeat what I said. We're not going to take anything off the table. I think long term for the Mets... The best thing we can do is develop our own frontline starters. I think we're on our way to do that. I think we're demonstrating that. And so our main emphasis is going to continue to be there. But we're certainly not going to take anything off the table.

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958.202 - 973.62 John

Do you think you could have been more aggressive there? Or do you think perhaps you have to look at the scouting? Because obviously two of the guys that you got who were pretty prominent, guys who played well elsewhere, did not perform in New York for whatever reason.

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Chapter 6: What are the lessons learned from the trade deadline decisions?

973.6 - 992.467 David Stearns

Yeah, so I'm not going to comment on trades that didn't happen. In terms of the guys we got, we've got to create an environment here, and I have to create an environment here where when players come here who are good players, that they have success here. That's our goal. And in a couple cases here, we acquired players who really struggled.

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Mark?

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995.231 - 1000.138 David Stearns

First of all, just apart from Alvarez, any other surgeries that you can announce? No.

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1001.022 - 1025.785 David Stearns

You've harped a little bit on just needing to improve the defense. Your top free agent is a bat first, first baseman. What is your interest in bringing back Pete Alonzo, and does that kind of complicate it a little bit? Yeah, Pete is a great Met. He had a fantastic year. I said this last year, and it worked out. I'd love to have Pete back, and we'll see where the offseason goes.

1026.666 - 1040.361 David Stearns

Do you see him as a first baseman, or would he be a DH option for you? Look, I think how the exact roster construction hypothetically fills out, we'll deal with that as we get into the offseason.

1041.763 - 1063.652 Andy

Andy? David, I remember in spring training yourself and other people in your leadership group felt really good about your starting pitching, thought it was maybe better than the outside expectations were on it. Do you think that you guys mis-evaluated something about it that you could then tweak in your evaluation process going forward? Or, excuse me, sorry, but was it, hey, Cannon got hurt.

1063.672 - 1068.846 Andy

Senga didn't give you what you thought. What I'm asking is were you wrong to begin with on that or did just...

1068.826 - 1088.953 David Stearns

I think it's a combination. I think, yeah, we were hit by injuries, but every club is hit by injuries, and we have to be able to have sufficient pitching depth to overcome that. And clearly when we got hit by injuries in the middle of the season, we did not have the depth to overcome that.

Chapter 7: What does David Stearns identify as the most fixable issues for the Mets?

1681.853 - 1688.682 Tim

For you, looking at the season, is there a turning point for you that sticks out to you as that's where it started to go south for you guys?

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1691.581 - 1704.645 David Stearns

Um, look, we, we played poorly the last two months of the season. I don't know that I can pinpoint a date, but we played, we played poorly bad baseball the last two months of the season.

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And how would you evaluate Clay Holmes' finishes in the top 10 in the ERA?

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1708.677 - 1716.348 Kerry

How do you evaluate his season, the transition to starting, and just the whole overall effect of doing that team-wide for you guys? Clay Holmes?

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1717.029 - 1739.828 David Stearns

So I think Clay had a very successful year. And I think, to his credit, after maybe going through a little phase of fatigue, he was able to bounce back and had a really strong finish of the year. He worked incredibly hard. gave us exactly what we could have hoped for and clearly pitched a very good game for us over the weekend.

1739.848 - 1740.088 Laura

Laura?

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Understanding that you guys value positional versatility, how much do you think that actually contributed to some of the defensive issues?

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I think there were certain cases where we asked players to do things where they were a little unfamiliar with and it contributed to some of the defensive challenges we had.

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Would that change your philosophy at all, or do you still feel like that's an important thing to have?

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