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Begin Again with Davina McCall

Begin Again Moments: Spirituality & Signs

24 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What significant experience did Elizabeth Day have during her psychic reading?

0.031 - 5.282 Elizabeth Day

I genuinely do feel that in a past life I've had experience of mothering.

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5.683 - 19.652 Davina McCall

Yes, so talk to me about that because it was through a medium, wasn't it, that you spoke to and she saw something which really helped you navigate that time in your life.

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19.773 - 44.027 Elizabeth Day

What did she say? So this was a psychic that a good friend of mine had recommended. And she is based in America. And my good friend said, text her to make the appointment. Don't tell her your real name. And she was a very savvy friend. So I texted this psychic to make the appointment. And I gave her, because I am truthful, I gave her my first name, my real name. I said it's Elizabeth.

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44.048 - 63.563 Elizabeth Day

And I didn't say anything else. And this psychic said, OK, I'll call you at 7 p.m. your time on a Wednesday evening. It was a phone call. She didn't even see my face. She couldn't have Googled me. And it was an extraordinary experience. The first thing she said was, well, you love words. And I was like, I do.

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Chapter 2: How did Elizabeth's psychic reading help her process grief and fertility struggles?

63.583 - 82.432 Elizabeth Day

I do love words. That is so me. And about halfway through this conversation where she said lots of other accurate stuff about my personal life, about my husband. She's like, does your mother have some neck pain? I was like, I don't think so. And then I checked later and my mum had put out her back bell ringing. She was like, I'm going to see the osteopath.

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82.452 - 87.994 Davina McCall

Wait, put the car in park, Elizabeth. I just want to just repeat that. Your mother does bell ringing.

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88.154 - 107.487 Elizabeth Day

Yes. Love her. So anyway, about halfway through the bell ringing and everything. Yeah. The psychic said this thing and she said, I feel like you are grappling right now with letting go of a lifelong desire. And all I said was, yes, that makes sense. I wasn't asking her any questions. I deliberately didn't want to guide her anywhere. I said, yes, that makes sense.

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107.507 - 123.918 Elizabeth Day

And she said, I don't know if it's to do with children. But if it is, I have a very strong sense that you were a mother in a past life and you were the mother of six and it almost melted you. That was her word. It almost melted you. And this life has been offered to you to live on your own terms.

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124.64 - 147.475 Elizabeth Day

And that might be if you have tried to have children, you might have experienced fertility issues or miscarriage. And when she said that, I was like, oh, so I totted up the number of unsuccessful fertility cycles, three. And then I've had three miscarriages, six. So I've actually technically been pregnant six times. It was mind blowing. I literally got goosebumps.

147.516 - 165.937 Elizabeth Day

So did I. It felt so aligned with the truth that I had been avoiding in a way. Yes. Because I had had this yearning to be a mother and I had encountered so many obstacles and I'd kept going because I felt I wanted to, but I also felt that I should.

167.098 - 168.62 Davina McCall

It's so interesting that.

168.64 - 190.765 Elizabeth Day

Yeah. And what that psychic did, and I'm forever grateful to her for it, is she gave me permission to see what it would be like to let that idea go. And it turned out that letting that idea go was incredibly liberating. And it doesn't mean that I'm not sad about it. I am, but I'm really at peace with it. And there are so many other ways that I'm able to create.

191.987 - 218.633 Davina McCall

Isn't it fascinating when somebody sees you and she didn't see you, but she sees you. And they give you permission to let go. And that actually you can't let go until somebody says, you know, you can let go. Yeah. And when that happens, you know, what does it feel like?

Chapter 3: What signs do people experience after losing a loved one?

251.591 - 269.292 Elizabeth Day

And actually, there's something really important about that because no one else could have given me permission in a way. I needed someone who claimed to be able to tap into a non-human belief system, if that makes sense, like a beyond human belief.

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269.272 - 289.407 Elizabeth Day

thought process because none of my friends would say that to me in the sense that they love me so much they want to completely support me in whatever endeavor I'm choosing to do similarly with my partner similarly with medical professionals they're like well we're here to support whatever decision you make next but you have to make it

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289.387 - 311.905 Elizabeth Day

Similarly with therapists, like they're not the ones who are going to say you can let it go. And so actually it was incredibly helpful to me. And I have since passed or made appointments with that psychic for dear friends of mine who were going through massive challenges. And at every point she has A, said something different. So she hasn't always started off with like, oh, you love words. Yes.

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312.025 - 335.205 Elizabeth Day

But B, she said something that has unlocked her. some power within them to see things differently. And there's something about that power of knowing, the instinct that we can tap into. Trust yourself. Trusting yourself. And women, for millennia, because of patriarchy, because of everything else, we've been sort of bamboozled out of trusting ourselves because actually it's so powerful.

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337.514 - 356.029 Davina McCall

For anybody that has lost somebody and there's a blueprint in the signs of lots of different ways that we can prepare ourselves to be more open to signs. Could you talk me through some of those?

356.768 - 377.927 Dr. Tara Swart

I think, first of all, having this conversation and having the psychological safety in your own community to have that conversation is important. Because obviously, if I started talking about science and everyone just thought I was losing my mind from grief, or my friends started to get worried about me because I was talking about science, it would have changed my journey.

379.929 - 387.986 Dr. Tara Swart

So I already, in the past few years, have been having that conversation a lot with my friends. And they get signs from Robin as well, which is wonderful.

388.006 - 390.779 Davina McCall

Oh, that's so neat.

390.799 - 392.146 Dr. Tara Swart

You even want people that didn't know him.

Chapter 4: How can nature contribute to healing after loss?

420.455 - 431.271 Dr. Tara Swart

What is lucid dreaming? So lucid dreaming is when you're aware you're dreaming and you can actually control the events in the dream to some extent. I think I've had that like once or twice.

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431.311 - 433.755 Davina McCall

Do you get that a lot?

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433.975 - 442.007 Dr. Tara Swart

No, not a lot, but I've had it. So yeah, if I ever became aware that I was in a dream with Robin, I would try to keep it going. Of course.

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443.59 - 448.278 Davina McCall

And so one of the things, obviously, is getting your community aware that you're not going that shit crazy.

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448.298 - 469.59 Dr. Tara Swart

Yeah. And being able to have mutual conversations about it. And then for me, the first two things that started me, you know, on this journey that I had no idea how I was going to navigate were nature and community. So, I mean, people came to visit me every single day. I got so many flowers that I ran out of vessels to put them in.

470.131 - 494.715 Dr. Tara Swart

And so one thing I learned is that if someone close to me loses someone, I'm going to buy them a vase, not flowers. Yes. Oh, my God, that's good. It was a good learning. And I'm talking about like six months solid of getting flowers like all the time. Wow. Even now, and it's been nearly four years. And that's really lovely, isn't it?

494.735 - 498.862 Davina McCall

It's, well, you were talking about community.

499.443 - 521.976 Dr. Tara Swart

Yeah. So I was living on a large property that I would just walk around for half an hour every day. And then because I didn't really have anything else to do or couldn't really do anything else, I just started walking for longer and longer. And I felt the benefits on my mental health of doing that. And I also had a weird analogy, which is that I have a terrible sense of direction.

521.996 - 529.943 Dr. Tara Swart

And where I was living, I would have no signal. So if I got lost, I wouldn't be able to use Google Maps. And I could walk for hours without seeing anyone.

Chapter 5: What is the importance of community in navigating grief?

529.923 - 555.253 Dr. Tara Swart

But I started going down paths I'd never been before. And I just had this, a bit like the weird feeling of him not being him when he died. I just had this weird feeling that I would find my way. And on some kind of spiritual level that I'd been in that place before, which I can't explain... But for me, I mean, I can lose my way in London. I can be crying on a street corner in London.

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555.273 - 579.834 Dr. Tara Swart

I've lived here my entire life. For me to say it's OK to just keep walking because eventually you'll find your way back felt like an analogy for grief. Yes. Even having to drive because Robin always drove. And even when he was between treatments, I would drive to the country, but he would say, get into this lane, go down to 50, turn off here. So suddenly having to drive on my own.

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579.874 - 592.136 Dr. Tara Swart

At first, I was like, you know, shaking and terrified and didn't even feel like, oh, my God, I got home safely. That's great. I just looked at the seat next to me and just thought, like, why aren't you here?

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593.862 - 610.117 Dr. Tara Swart

But then my driving improved, you know, like it had to. And so I use that as an analogy. I was like, I can't see my grief journey, but I can see that I've improved in driving this much in six months. So it must be the same.

Chapter 6: How do dreams play a role in connecting with lost loved ones?

613.66 - 623.809 Davina McCall

I like this idea of nature being so healing. And often, you know, these long walks are like I just need to keep going.

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624.771 - 634.95 Dr. Tara Swart

And how much they help. Yeah. And I think, so my neighbor, she lost her brother and she said to me, just walk your way back to healing. Wow. She specifically said that.

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636.032 - 636.853 Davina McCall

So great.

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636.913 - 662.122 Dr. Tara Swart

Yeah. But I think the thing for me was when you walk and it goes across the seasons as well, you see this continuous cycle of healing. how nature recycles everything. Yes. Like... Yes. And even in, weirdly, in the bouquets of flowers I would get, the roses always die first. And so I became a bit obsessed at watching the life cycle of a rose.

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663.704 - 681.849 Dr. Tara Swart

But understanding that the petals and, you know, they go back into the earth and they form some of the soil that helps new ones to grow. But also... When nature is so beautiful, you feel awe and you feel connected to something greater. And I think that really helped me as well.

682.992 - 691.453 Dr. Tara Swart

And also a lot of signs come from nature because the classic ones like the white feather, the robins, you're more likely to see them if you're spending time in nature.

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