Dr. Tara Swart

I think, first of all, having this conversation and having the psychological safety in your own community to have that conversation is important.

Because obviously, if I started talking about science and everyone just thought I was losing my mind from grief, or my friends started to get worried about me because I was talking about science, it would have changed my journey.

So I already, in the past few years, have been having that conversation a lot with my friends.

And they get signs from Robin as well, which is wonderful.

You even want people that didn't know him.

and I don't see him in dreams that much, but two or three of my friends, they get dream messages from him.

I get so jealous of people that dream of loved ones.

I know, because it's like you're actually seeing them.

You see them.

I never get that.

I've had it a couple of times, and I can partly do lucid dreaming, so I managed to extend one of them a little bit, but then I think I must have fallen asleep or something, and I was like, oh, I wish I'd stayed in that dream for longer, because it was so vivid.

What is lucid dreaming?

So lucid dreaming is when you're aware you're dreaming and you can actually control the events in the dream to some extent.

I think I've had that like once or twice.

No, not a lot, but I've had it.

So yeah, if I ever became aware that I was in a dream with Robin, I would try to keep it going.

Of course.

Yeah.

And being able to have mutual conversations about it.

And then for me, the first two things that started me, you know, on this journey that I had no idea how I was going to navigate were nature and community.