Gisèle Pelicot: After Everything That Happened... I Didn’t Expect To Fall In Love Again | Pt. 2
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Why did Gisèle Pelicot choose to waive her right to anonymity?
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How did Gisèle explain her experience to her children?
So please watch with care. This conversation was recorded in both French and English. On YouTube, you can choose how to watch using the language options below. This is part two of her story. Monsieur Pellicot started to drug and rape you in 2011. It's difficult to comprehend how a man can be so unbelievably manipulative that you felt guilty about accusing him of something that he was actually doing.
When did you find out about that? It took time for them to find a... the proof on his laptop on his phone and i learned that 2nd of november 2020 what went through your mind your heart your body when you saw that i think my brain kind of stopped i disassociated What was it like to have people not believe you?
What challenges did Gisèle face when preparing for the trial?
Well, I think for them it was terrifying to think to themselves that a husband... I mean, it's terrifying to think that you can live with somebody and think that you really know them and then you don't know this man at all. And I think that also must have been disturbing. In other words, that I kind of... disturbed by doing all this. I understand that because today the person, in fact, who examined me in Versailles, she said, you know, my husband, when he brings me croissant in the morning, I think, oh, he's nice. I'm wondering if he's not like your husband. So, of course, I reassured her. I said, no, not all husbands and not all men are rapists and perverts. You've also got to reassure. But the fact that you talk about it
allows you also, because after all, this trial, in fact, freed up women's words who never dared speak before. I had many, many women who said, thank you. Thanks to you, I'm going to have the strength to do so. And I felt that was brilliant because I thought, well, at least your story will help others. There always has to be somebody who really, in fact, kicks you and tells you, in fact, to do this. And now I'm handing over to others. And I believe we're going to change society. I made people more aware. And I think it's something that's got to be done. Society's got to move. And I think that, in fact, I have confidence. I have trust in the young generation because they're involved. And there were men who came to say thank you.
Thank you, madame, because I look at women differently.
I think one of the... As a mother, I also have three children. One of the most heartbreaking moments for me was reading... about you trying to tell your children what had happened. And they're all adults, you know, they've got their own children. And they, like you, have been under the impression that they have this great dad, grandfather, and you know that you have to go and burst the bubble. And how...
How did Gisèle find love again after her traumatic experience?
I mean, you know, it's something that you literally just can't imagine what that was like. But how was it that moment before you told them where you thought, OK, I've got to change my children's lives forever and then telling them?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:34
2
Why did Gisèle Pelicot choose to waive her right to anonymity?
0:34–1:28
3
How did Gisèle explain her experience to her children?
1:28–2:30
4
What challenges did Gisèle face when preparing for the trial?
2:30–4:32
5
How did Gisèle find love again after her traumatic experience?
4:32–5:59
6
What was Gisèle's relationship with her children like after the revelations?
5:59–6:49
7
How did Gisèle manage her anger and emotions post-trauma?
6:49–8:06
8
What insights did Gisèle gain about societal change through her experience?
8:06–19:44
Speakers
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