Part One: Ian Smith: The Prime Minister of Rhodesia

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What is the background of Ian Smith and Rhodesia?

Brit Prawat 0:00
Call zone media.
Robert Evans 0:05
Welcome back to Behind the Bastards, a podcast that you, and I mean you, my friend, are listening to right now. Unless you're the not the you that I was referring to, in which case I'm not talking to you right now. Go away. Come back later, you know? And, you know, if you're going to come back later, make sure that you're back in time to hear from our guest in this episode today. That's not really a very clean way to... To go to... Becca Ramos is here, everybody! To introduce Becca Ramos. Hello! Becca, I'm sorry. I don't know. I didn't have a good intro planned out. I just started talking and letting the words follow. But yes, Becca Ramos, welcome to the show. Do you want to plug your pluggables better than I did?
Yeah! Sure.
Robert Evans 0:51
I am a producer here at iHeart, but I also have my own show called Welcome to El Barrio, which is a podcast about all things Puerto Rican history, news, culture. I interview really amazing Puerto Ricans that are redefining what it means to be Puerto Rican, all in hopes that by the end of every episode, you feel a little closer to Puerto Rican no matter where you are.

How did the British Empire influence the founding of Rhodesia?

Robert Evans 1:13
are in the world and uh we have had some amazing guests lately we literally on tuesday uh i'm like when is next tuesday it'll be chewy babe if you are a fan of bad bunny you're a fan of chewy probably so tune in it's gonna be a great episode that rocks that rocks cool and uh this is my first episode back after i mean it's not the first episode you'll hear me it's my first episode you guys on the reddit ian's a real person oh yes he is very much real oh yeah we have one episode with our our producer ian instead of sophie and i forgot to do a separate introduction because i wasn't there to remind you
Kat Van Buren 1:58
Yeah, Ian Johnson is a supervising producer. Cool Zone Media, really great guy. Can't say enough nice things. But that is who was filling in for me. And nobody reminded Robert that he should have said that. Introduced separately our producer. Yeah, that was my bad. But to the subreddit, I'm safe. And that was Ian.
Robert Evans 2:18
Mm-hmm.
Kat Van Buren 2:18
Yeah. Well done.
Robert Evans 2:19
I fucked up. But you know who did? Well, actually, we're going to talk about people who fucked up today. Absolutely. We're talking about... Becca, what do you know about Rhodesia?
Yeah.
Robert Evans 2:29
You know, I'm going to say not much. Okay. Okay. Not much. That's good. They've come up a few times in previous episodes of our podcast. Like Rhodesia is kind of like a specter haunting the white supremacist cause for the last like several decades in the U.S. and abroad. Yeah. And so we've talked around Rhodesia. We've talked about like how Soldier of Fortune used to try to recruit like white racists in America to fight for the Rhodesian army in Africa. But we haven't talked about Rhodesia directly as like the pure subject of an episode. We talked about that fucking guy who got wrongfully blamed for doing the anthrax attacks in the U.S. who like volunteered for the Rhodesian army. Oh, yes. We've talked around Rhodesia a bunch, but this week we're talking about Ian Smith, who was the prime minister of Rhodesia for its entire existence as what you might call an independent country, although it's never recognized by the rest.
Robert Evans 3:26
of the world is an independent country. But the kind of TLDR, before we get into this, is that Rhodesia was a state in southern Central Africa that was started as like a colony of the British Empire and declared its own independence illegally from Great Britain in the late 20th century and fought like a 20-year war against the black majority of the country, which was fought by like the white colonists who owned all of the guns. And eventually they failed and Rhodesia became Zimbabwe. And that's like the long story, short version, right?

What were the early conflicts in Rhodesia and their implications?

Robert Evans 4:00
So we're going to talk about how all of that happened this week. Are you excited, Becca? Woo! Let's get into it. Yeah, you should be. You should be.
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Amy Brown 4:17
There was no anything inside those eyes. They turned black. It scared the hell out of me. Evil, wake up. I'm the one that saw the murder take place by Krivak and DePippo.

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