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Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

1/15/26: FBI Raids WaPo Journos, Ford Worker Flipped Off By Trump, Gambling Economic Takeover

15 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 6.817 Saagar Enjeti

This is an iHeart Podcast.

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7.618 - 30.038 Krystal Ball

Guaranteed human.

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30.018 - 34.965 Saagar Enjeti

We need your help to build the future of independent news media, and we hope to see you at breakingpoints.com.

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35.468 - 47.003 Krystal Ball

So a very concerning development with regard to First Amendment rights. We can put this up on the screen. The FBI executed a search warrant on a reporter's home from The Washington Post. Here's what Kash Patel said.

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47.504 - 63.045 Krystal Ball

This morning, the FBI and partners executed a search warrant of an individual at The Washington Post who was found to be allegedly obtaining and reporting classified sensitive military information from a government contractor, endangering our warfighters and compromising America's national security system.

63.025 - 83.548 Krystal Ball

The alleged leaker was arrested this week and is in custody, and this is an ongoing investigation. We will have no further comment. Let's go ahead and put this C2 up on the screen. This is the Washington Post report with regard to this search warrant. So they say the FBI executed a search warrant Wednesday morning at a Washington Post reporter's home.

83.528 - 104.136 Krystal Ball

as part of an investigation into a government contractor accused of illegally retaining classified government materials. That reporter, Hannah Nathanson, was at her home in Virginia at the time of the search. Federal agents searched her home and her devices, seizing her phone, two laptops, and a Garmin watch. One of the laptops was her personal computer, the other a post-issued laptop. The post-

104.116 - 123.702 Krystal Ball

also received a subpoena Wednesday morning seeking information related to the same government contractor. According to a person familiar with the law enforcement action, the subpoena asked the Post to hand over any communications between the contractor and other employees. They go on to say, it is exceptionally rare for law enforcement officials to conduct searches at reporters' homes.

124.063 - 134.196 Krystal Ball

Federal regulations intended to protect a free press are designed to make it difficult to use aggressive law enforcement tactics against reporters or to obtain the identities of their sources or information.

Chapter 2: What happened during the FBI raids on Washington Post journalists?

223.95 - 246.229 Saagar Enjeti

Well, beyond that, it's a terrible, this is why the Assange case became so important. Because he was charged under the espionage act for leaking classified information or obtaining classified information. That's literally our job. By the way, under this standard, I would be – I could be prosecuted. Ryan could be prosecuted. You could as well and or not prosecuted but subject to a leak.

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246.329 - 263.717 Saagar Enjeti

Let's say if somebody who had leaked to me – I mean it's happened many times, classified information. information. Most recently, I think in my case, was Venezuela with USAID stuff. These were top secret documents that were leaked to us. We published them, vetted them, asked the State Department for comment. Let's say they were prosecuting the people who leaked that to us.

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263.877 - 282.776 Saagar Enjeti

They could then seize my work laptop, my Apple Watch, or my Whoop data, I guess, if I had one. Not sure exactly why that's relevant. And my personal cell phone. for the prosecution of that person. Now, the reason why you don't do that is because we did not commit a crime, or at least currently there is no law of a crime.

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282.836 - 303.141 Saagar Enjeti

The person who did that, you could say that they were being prosecuted for a crime. In this particular case, though, the precedent has long been one, and this is, as we'll all show you, right-wingers have been freaking out about for a long time, is it is a direct threat against the First Amendment. in particular, about the right to a free press.

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303.702 - 330.601 Saagar Enjeti

And in this case, while she is not being prosecuted, the detention of her personal laptop and information is then to try to be used to to potentially not just look in this case, but in any leaker and or to use your information as a potential lead to other people who are leaking to you. This has a long, I mean, to say that it's never happened before, not true.

330.621 - 350.138 Saagar Enjeti

I mean, the Obama minister, Nixon, there's been many cases where This type is up. But in general, we don't see these types of prosecutions or others, not just over concern about press freedom. But, you know, as we're all about to show everybody with the with Fox News, it often like when there's a government in power who doesn't like some sort of particular media outlet.

350.459 - 353.925 Saagar Enjeti

Oh, it just so happens they end up getting their phone searched or whatever.

354.126 - 354.306 Krystal Ball

Yeah.

354.326 - 356.35 Saagar Enjeti

And that's what happened appears to have happened in this case.

Chapter 3: How did Trump respond to a Ford worker's accusation?

3160.747 - 3170.72 Saagar Enjeti

You're so elegant. We really, really hope everybody goes and supports your channel, subscribes, and supports all of your work that you're doing. And we value you more at any time than right now.

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3170.74 - 3172.602 Krystal Ball

So thank you very much. Thanks, Pablo. Great to see you.

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3173.303 - 3176.447 Pablo Torre

Guys, I got to read this indictment. I'll come back and talk anytime. See you, brother.

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3176.467 - 3177.889 Krystal Ball

Would love that. Thank you. Thanks, Pablo.

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3178.57 - 3178.93 Pablo Torre

Thanks.

3180.091 - 3184.49 Saagar Enjeti

Thanks, man. Thank you guys so much for watching. We appreciate it. We will see you all later.

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