The hidden cost of the gold rush
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Hello, welcome to Business Daily on the BBC World Service. I'm Ed Butler and today I'm with the illegal miners of West Africa digging for gold.
Tech work is too dangerous. It's dangerous. Yes, anything can happen. You can hear some people have gone, they have died. But only God protects us. A human being cannot protect us. Only God.
The spread of illegal mining, fuelled by a surge in gold prices over recent years, is raising humanitarian and environmental fears around the world. Are Western governments, even the US, mint feeding the illicit gold trade?
So the US Mint has experts in money laundering, illicit finance. The world's foremost experts work there. I'm not an expert. If I could find this using public records and phone calls, I think the experts could find this.
The price of the gold rush. That's Business Daily from the BBC. So let me describe this place. We're in a place called Komoro, which is... It's just like a huge bowl in the middle of the forest. Around me are these gigantic, beautiful, impressive trees lining a mountainside in every direction. But in the middle of this valley is this huge shanty scoured out of the red-brown earth. It's just ditch after ditch. It's like some scene from a battlefield. You can hear the machines. They're sifting water. through filters to basically pull out the tiny little nuggets of gold and refine those for sale. It's precarious living. You can see that this is a dirt-poor place. Every house is just tarpaulin roofs, makeshift wooden poles, and there are hundreds, literally hundreds of people here, all digging, sifting, dreaming.
We do illegal mining. More than five years now. It's where I live and feed my family, here in Kumoro.
That's Kelly Mbayo. He's a local gold miner in Sierra Leone, running a small team here amidst the golden mud of this makeshift settlement.
We work together with the pumping machine to filter the mold. We do pound it. From there, we get what you want, which is the gold. So this is just tiny little grains of gold. Yeah, it is just tiny, just tiny little, just for survival. You would just see them like grains of sand in your hand. Exactly.
And how much money does that earn you?
Yeah, it's about 2,000 plus, 2,000 plus. 2,000 liams, which is $40 a day. I'm sharing the money between me and my boys because we do work it together. Job facility in this country is low. So most of the youth, they came here. Most of their wives are here also selling pure water just to make ends meet.
What's it like here? How would you describe this town?
In one word, it's a place for survival. You know?
It's not fun, it's just survival.
Yeah, a place where if you are hardworking today, you come today, you have your survival.
How come the authorities aren't closing you down? It's all illegal mining. It's pretty obvious. Everyone can see you.
Yeah, it's illegal. But if the authorities say today, nobody's going to work. They do tax the machine's owner, you know, the grinding machine owner.
So they let you work and you have to pay them taxes?
What is driving the global surge in illegal artisanal gold mining?
Something like 250 weekly, weekly taxes to the authority because... So for each machine, each one of those pumping machines, they're paying 250 lions, which is about, what, $10?
Yeah, which is about $10. They do cajole them.
And do you use mercury to refine the gold?
Yeah, I do use mercury every day. Every day I work, I use mercury. It's dirty stuff, isn't it?
I mean, it's not good for the environment here.
I know. Mercury is not good for the environment. And even the National Mineral Agency, if they see mercury with you, they will arrest you. It's an illegal substance. You have to use it.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–5:02
2
What is driving the global surge in illegal artisanal gold mining?
5:02–9:52
3
What is life like inside a Sierra Leone artisanal mining settlement?
9:52–18:07
4
How do artisanal miners extract gold and how much can they earn?
18:07–22:40
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