Ep #190: Tanner Haas: Protect Your Privacy NOW: Why FreedomChat Changes the Game
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Business Growth Architect Show: Founders of the Future
35 min
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8 chapters
transcribed 13 days ago
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What makes Tanner's blood boil about privacy and messaging apps?
What makes my blood boil? People deserve privacy. What's yours should remain yours. What makes my blood boil? If you don't pay for a product, you are the product. Yeah.
My opening question for you today is, Tana, what makes your blood boil?
What makes my blood boil are the number of individuals being screwed by the US healthcare system. It's number one. Number two is the call it the lame person mindset, meaning that they believe they can't do something just because just because. So those two things I know they're on different ends of the spectrum unrelated, but those two things make my blood boil more than anything else.
You started to create an app. So tell us about this app and your blood was boiling when you built that one too, didn't it?
Correct. It definitely did boil. And this one is called Freedom Chat. And I mean that now has a different connotation than it did two and a half years ago. But It is designed for those that want absolute privacy and security, which to me shouldn't be a hard ask, but it is. So what really prompted me, what made my blood boil, is the amount of apps that are truly unauthentic. You go on their website, they say message privately, end then encryption. I mean that's like a butt buzzword. But when you actually dive into it, what does end encryption actually mean? Like where is the end? And so what that really means, if you ask me what's end that encryption is it means no one under any circumstance other than the intended recipient can read a message.
But if you ask WhatsApp, totally different connotation behind that, it means, well, if you report a user, we can see it. If you back it up to another device, we can see it. I mean that That just started to make my blood boil. People deserve privacy wherever you end on the the spectrum, political, it doesn't matter your belief like everybody should be able to s talk to their friends, family and associates in private without somebody else looking over their shoulder.
Do you think we're being lied to?
I think we're being told more lies than we are being told the truth.
How do I know, right? So wh why does this matter? So does it matter on whether I'm on like a WhatsApp or people go to Signal or, you know, any of these other places and it says it's end to end encryption, nobody can go in. So you say that's a lie. Why does this matter?
It matters because I think if you don't have your privacy you have nothing and it doesn't just stem from you sending a a message. It could be a image, it could be a video, it could be your social security number, it could be a credit card. Any little thing. And it it's also healthcare information, financial information. So yeah, we are being lied to. Um It it all matters. And the people the most common thing I hear for the opposition is, Well, I have nothing to hide. Doesn't matter if you have something to hide or not. It's just wait until something happens. You run for something. There's a hack at a company that you were using, all of a sudden these conversations that you might not have thought meant anything are out in the open.
That image or video, that I mean, it all matters because what Yours should remain yours. Just give people their privacy because as soon as you don't have I mean, look at China, they have this social credit score. You it's groupthink. You can't say something without being criticized. And freedom of thought is the individual expression. The freedom to think and say what you believe. Wherever you are, I don't really care. Everybody should be able to say what is on their mind because the moment we get away from that, people are afraid to speak their mind because they fear of a leak or some privacy. see repercussion. That's when you just get a society that's not creative. I think there are so many risks. It's interesting that people the first thing they might say is I have nothing to hide.
I just think that's a very weak argument.
I don't think necessarily that it's about hiding anything. I think it's about a right to I a right to enjoy what I pay for. So if I pay for a phone and I want to send my family a photo of my two year old granddaughter, I want to be able to do that without fearing that that's gonna end up on some child porn side.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What makes Tanner's blood boil about privacy and messaging apps?
0:00–5:19
2
How do popular messaging apps misrepresent end‑to‑end encryption?
5:19–10:11
3
Why does privacy matter for all personal data, not just messages?
10:11–14:33
4
Is the "I have nothing to hide" argument valid?
14:33–18:35
5
What unique privacy features does Freedom Chat offer?
18:35–23:55
6
Why are free messaging apps actually selling your data?
23:55–29:07
7
How did building Freedom Chat change Tanner as an entrepreneur?
29:07–33:40
8
What immediate steps can listeners take to protect their privacy today?
33:40–35:44