She Never Healed the Wound. She Stopped Letting It Drive.
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Business Growth Architect Show: Founders of the Future
33 min
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3 chapters
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How did Alice’s childhood trauma shape the story she told herself about being abandoned?
Made up the story that my mother had abandoned me. Because when I cried, when I called out to her, she didn't turn around and look at me. So I made up a lot of stories about something is wrong with me. I wasn't pretty, I wasn't smart, I didn't listen, I wasn't a good Chinese girl. If you want to figure out where the voices came from, you should try to go back to the first time you heard it. I called her up on the phone. And I asked her. She told me something that I'd never heard before. She told me that, um My dad actually committed suicide. My life has been a lie. If this is not true, what else is not true, though?
Hello and welcome. Today I say hello to a good friend and a woman who is truly extraordinary, Alice Cowell from Sender One. And what she's bringing to the show is super, super unique because she looks at this example of imposter syndrome and, you know, the the the noisy voice in our head. And she certainly has figured out how to keep that in alignment and in check so that she remains the boss. Alice, it's amazing to have you on the show. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for having me.
What breakthrough did Alice experience during the phone call with her mother?
I'm excited for this conversation. Same here. So do tell me. The the hard part about your story is that you were literally left alone and abandoned as a child in America. And you have come up with a whole methodology on how to get over this intense childhood trauma and being this successful climbing gym owner with I don't even know how many vocations you have now. Six because every time I talk to you, you raised another couple of million dollars to build another one. So tell me, how do you keep that core wound in check?
Well, first of all, I want to challenge what you said because abandon is a word that I made up, right? I keep saying that. Like I had written written this story that I was abandoned by my mother, but it's not true. It was just a version of the story that I made up. So that
already is a hint that there's something more that we need to know about this. So did you at first believe that you were abandoned? And then what happened for you to reframe that as the first thing in the show?
So are we uh is it okay if we start all the way from the beginning? 'Cause I think that'll give some context. Context
is always good.
Yeah. I was born and raised in Taiwan and my father died when I was three years old and I didn't actually know how he passed away. Nobody told me. And you know, Chinese culture, shove things under the the rug. We just don't talk about it. But actually my grandparents told me, or like the adults in my life told me later that he had died from a brain tumor. So I always had this assumption that he died from brain tumor. In fact, for years when I went to the doctor and they asked me for family history, I would check brain tumor as a box. But I actually have a memory of my mother leaving when I was a child. When I was three years old, I had a memory of my mother walking out the door. And she was carrying two large suitcases and she just kept walking and she didn't turn around and look at me.
And you know, it's It's I know everybody has some trauma. I I actually don't believe that my trauma is unique or special. But there's these moments when like no matter what I do, I just I close my eyes and I can see that moment, right? And I think that was the first moment that I started believing or I made up the story that my mother had abandoned me. Because when I cried, when I called out to her, she didn't turn around and look at me. So I made up a lot of stories about something is wrong with me. I wasn't pretty, I wasn't smart, I didn't listen, I wasn't a good Chinese girl. Turned out and then when I was a teenager Well, she came back. My mom came and left several times when I was a child and when I was fourteen she came
To my grandma's house and sh my grandma actually said, You know what, you can't keep putting your daughter here in Taiwan with me, you need to take her. So my mom took me to America and she just gave me some money and she rented an apartment like next to the school.
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