S12 Favorite - Making AI Deterministic for Developers and their Agents, with Patrick Vuong of Moderne
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Code Story | Startup Podcast for CTOs, CEOs and Technical Founders
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It is the product management agent for AI builders. Brain Grid turns messy ideas into clear specs, tasks, and prompts that coding agents like Cursor and Claude can actually build the right way. Ship real software, not fragile prototypes. Start free at brainggrid.ai. Hello listeners. Today we have a special guest in the Code Story podcast, Patrick Wong, Director of Product at Badern. Moderna is the agent tools company, building the knowledge, discovery, and execution tools that AI agents rely on so they can operate faster, more accurately, and at far lower cost. In today's episode, Patrick is going to tell us all about the company and how Moderna is enabling developers to build software faster using agents and agent tools with the best context.
Their approach to semantic models produces deterministic Over probabilistic or inference-driven tools, which for this engineer/slash host has been a point of skepticism for AI since the beginning. Well, Patrick, thank you for being on the show today. Thanks for being on Code Story. Looking forward to it. Really excited to jump into Modern today, but uh before we do, tell me in my audience a little bit about you, maybe your path at this point, influences, hobbies, family, things like that. But really, whatever you want to tell me.
So maybe let's start with where I'm from. So I'm Canadian, originally born and raised in Toronto, and I went to the University of McMaster in Hamilton, Ontario. There I essentially went into the program for business, but was looking to find where my passion lies, especially leading to a career. And it's interesting, I ended up finding it through an experiential learning program. So not even through the day-to-day courses. This program was where they select twelve different students, split them into two teams, and each week we had a company called come in and bring in the real world business case and through that we determined a winner and then the final piece of it is you actually go to this closing ceremonies where it's almost like a draft and you find out which company you end up with.
And that was where I got my career start at Microsoft. I think the biggest thing that I got from that program was learning how to take customer need or understanding the problem and turning It into an insight. And then starting at Microsoft because of this program, it's been a huge journey. Eight years there, different countries from first Microsoft Canada to then going to the headquarters, doing marketing there, then doing go to market, doing some revenue, then doing technical product marketing.
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