UVF hitman says MI5 ran loyalist death gangs
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A UVF hitman has said loyalist death squads were run by MI5 and he is willing to tell a peace and reconciliation process all about it. Paul Beattie was once one of the most active gunmen for the UVF in Belfast in the 1990s. Today I'm talking to Stephen Moore about Beattie's past and how it weighs heavily on him. I'm Niall Donald and this is Crimeworld. Podcast from Crimeworld.com. So Stephen, you had a fascinating interview with a guy called uh Paul Beattie, who was a a a very well known UVF hitman. I mean, for a start, these guys don't normally speak. What is his motivation in speaking, I suppose, to you?
Well yeah yeah. Well uh Paul B uh his motivation I mean he has spoken to us uh uh a few times before back and because because his life is a s a sort of life of um as you know, as many loyal the guys who get involved in loyalist paramilitary groups, they end up all falling out. They end up all getting death threats or a a shot or put out of the country. It's it it seems to be, you know, that's just the playbook. So his his the the the his motivation at this point in time is that we did a story with him last year when he he was having trouble with loyalists in Lisbon and he had to leave the area. And afterward His son was attacked. Um, and his son was left with a couple of couple of bad bleeds on his brain.
And uh he wanted to get it out there. These people have told us his son, Oh, you show your dad's a tight. Um, Paul has f has uh probably has faced this for a long time, for years, where but he he he he claims, I can't verify this, that he ever since he got out of jail under the Good Friday Agreement in ninety eight, ninety nine, he has uh when he he told the EVF he didn't want anything more to do with him. His son had just been born. In fact, his son was actually a you know a a May's baby. He was a product of uh conjugal rights inside the May's prison. Um when he knew he was having a son when he and he was getting out on the Good Friday Agreement, he wanted nothing more to the EVF. He wanted to lead what he would call a normal, peaceful life.
He was a he was an electrician, he he had a job, he could do work. And he didn't want to hang out. And they said since then, you know The because there was only During the early nineties, there were only three uh real gunmen, he says, in UVF in South Belfast, who did would have done um all the shooting. Um and they wanted them to come back in. They wanted them back in, they wanted them to attend meetings, they wanted them to to to pay dues, which is a another current uh a constant theme in in loyalist paramilitary groups. Pay your dues, they want you to attend meetings, go to you know, memorials and uh senator the cenotaph on on you know november the eleventh, that kind of goes so He just wanted out. And he says ever since then he's just be he's been tortured.
So that's and that's still go still going on to this day.
So that torture is happening to him, I suppose, despite as they would see it, you know, being a very, very active service member to that organisation. H does he how how did he come involved, I suppose, in in loyalist paramilitary activity?
Well, he lived in uh a uh uh Rodden Street, which is just off uh the sort of Donny uh the it's Sandy Road, but it's it's it's sort of it's a street that's very close to um um the w sort of where West Belfast meets um on the you know the Donegal Road area. Um and so it was a it was an interface area and it was it was before the time of the Westlink. He's he says when he was a teenager Um it was the time of the Westlink. But so there wasn't a Westlink, was the Westlink is created this sort of barrier between the two communities. That wasn't there. And he said, but during the the his time in the you know the eighties, you know, there was, you know, Catholics were coming, he would say we were coming to their street and attacking their houses.
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