Time Scarcity and Pocket Presence
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The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
35 min
3 speakers
5 chapters
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Hey, it's Adam Grant. While The Curiosity Shop is on our summer hiatus, we're sharing a few conversations that we really love. Today's episode comes from a conversation we originally recorded during Brene's Dare to Lead series on Strong Ground. In it, we explore time scarcity and what it really means to be present as a leader. Spoiler alert, thumbs down on executive presence and thumbs up on pocket presence. We'll be back with brand new episodes of The Curiosity Shop on July 30th. Thank you for listening.
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Welcome to The Curiosity Shop.
A show from the Vox Media Podcast Network.
Hi, everyone. I'm Brene Brown, and this is Dare to Lead. And joining us for more conversations around pretty much any topic you can think of, Adam Grant. Hi, Adam.
Hey, Brene. I'm excited to be back.
I'm excited to have you back. It's going to take me a very long time to get my head around my devaluation of future time. Our last conversation, I fancy myself a realistic person, but I do not think of my future time with the same amount of discipline as I think about my time today. And it's really changing me.
Wow, that's fascinating. Okay, I want to hear more. Why?
I think right now, especially in my life, I'm feeling a lot of time scarcity. And one way, one of the things I need to do right now is get more disciplined in my time now and So it's not driving me to think tomorrow will be different. So I think it's just a confounding variable for me, like is that the more scarcity I'm in with my time now, the more I project that the future is going to be easy.
Is that a coping mechanism?
For sure.
So you're telling yourself this is only temporary?
Yes, for sure. But this is year 10.
So having done nothing to change it.
Yeah.
Hope is not a strategy. Is that the line?
That is the line. I have very mixed feelings about that quote. So we should talk about it sometime because I'm not sure that it's right. But I'm pro-hope. I am radically anti-magical thinking.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, maybe the correction to it should be hope alone is not a strategy.
Hope alone.
Hope can be motivation for finding a strategy.
I think it's see our Schneiders work and hope as a- Agency and pathways. Get goal, agency, and pathway. So in some ways, hope is the ultimate strategy if you're a Schneider follower because that hope, high levels of hopefulness are correlated with the ability to set a goal, to determine a pathway, to be relentless about the pathway, even if the first one doesn't work out, and then to believe in your ability to do it. So in some ways, hope is actually a strategy if you define it with his definition, right? But I guess I think, I wonder, our last conversation makes me wonder, this is my exercise I'm gonna do with my coach. When I am devaluating future time, what specifically does my world and my life look like in the future that's so radically different than today?
And why aren't you creating it today?
Damn. And why am I not creating it today? So if you're joining us and you missed the last podcast, I think it's really worth going back to because we had a really interesting conversation about paradox and about the paradox of discipline and freedom and
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–9:14
2
How do Brené and Adam define time scarcity and devaluation of future time?
9:14–18:02
3
Why do they argue 'hope alone is not a strategy' and how can hope guide action?
18:02–26:07
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What research explains why we prefer immediate rewards over future benefits?
26:07–30:47
5
How do Brené and Adam compare living in the present versus planning for the future?
30:47–35:04
Speakers
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