Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy

415: Ask David: TEAM on your own, Blushing, Positive Reframing, & Delayed Responses

23 Sep 2024

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23 Sep 2024

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Question #1: John asks: Can you do TEAM on your own? Question #2: John asks: Can you provide more insights or instructions on how to do Positive Reframing on your own? It seems to be an incredibly important key to TEAM-CBT. Question #3: Ann asks: What can I do when I blush and my face turns bright red? Question #4: Dylan asks: Can you have a delayed reaction to the CBT exercises? #415 September 23 Ask, New questions Question #1: John asks: Can you do TEAM on your own? Oh, one other point that occurred to me, the people doing personal work on your podcasts are generally TEAM CBT therapists or people familiar with the TEAM model. They are obviously very familiar with the steps and techniques in TEAM, and yet they seem to require the insight and guidance from yourself and Jill. Why do you think that is if they are so well versed in TEAM already? Does that mean that a person from the general public doing their own work using your books without the guidance of a TEAM therapist is futile? Or would you always recommend someone using a therapist? Kind Regards John David’s response Can we include it in another podcast? Would love to just read it and jam on it with R and M. Warmly, david Question #2: John asks: Can you provide more insights or instructions on how to do Positive Reframing on your own? It seems to be an incredibly important key to TEAM-CBT. On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 9:24 PM John Macken [email protected] wrote: Hey there David and Rhonda, I hope you're keeping well, this is John from Ireland, we had a previous correspondence on Should statements! David, thanks very much for asking for access to the beta app, I'm really enjoying the modules! I heard you say on one of your apps that you are planning some workshops in relation to the app, will they be available online do you think? Would love to tune in if possible! I am always grateful for your inspiring work! I love your passion for the work that you and Rhonda do and that comes across from both of you during every podcast episode. Your FG community sounds amazing! Who knows, maybe one day I'll ditch the corporate career and join the cult! I have another question on Positive Reframing! As someone who is still trying to find my own journey to enlightenment following many months of anxiety and depression, I feel I am falling at this positive reframing step. I still find I am bumping up against resistance and I feel that my positive values and benefits don't count. It’s almost as if there is some kind of discounting the positive going on like my negative points vastly outweigh my positive points. It’s like there is such a negative filter there is no space for recognizing positive qualities. I was listening to the beginning of Episode 310 where a listener had an excellent contribution on Positive Reframing from your live work with Nasli. That got me thinking, would it be possible to hear more insights and detail on how to perform your own Positive Reframing work? Or do you have guidelines or a worksheet anywhere? It feels like the most powerful of all the steps! Among the many incredible tools that have been created under TEAM it seems the Agenda setting piece is probably the most powerful and innovative. I have listened to many of your Live Sessions intently and it seems that your gift and that of Jill Levitt is in convincing the patient of the beauty of their depression and anxiety. It feels that they are almost recovered or very nearly once you go through that step. On the face of it, it looks like what you're doing is very simple but there is a nuance and complexity to it that is incredible and without sounding too grandstanding or over dramatic this "gift" seems to be where the healing power lies. If you could bottle that gift you would change the world or be a billionaire or both! It is astounding to listen to. I would love to hear more about your insights into this area and how people can unlock this for themselves. For example, I found podcast 387 on Acceptance and Daring to be average incredibly powerful and insightful and convincing and these are pieces I'm trying to implement in my life. Love and admire your work and would love to make it over to one of your in person workshops someday when they are available to the general public, Warm regards John David's response We will address positive reframing on the show. Question #3: Ann asks: What can I do when I blush and my face turns bright red? Dr. Burns, I hope you’re both doing well. I wanted to share with you that you have changed my life dramatically. I have always thought that everyone else had a problem as far as attitudes and behaviors. But you have taught me through all three of your books and podcasts that my thoughts are why I’ve been so anxious and depressed. I have been on medication since I was 20 years old. Now, I’m weaning off of my medication because of all of the work I’ve done with your book and a therapist trained in TEAM therapy. My relationship is much better with my husband and it was me that was pushing him away from me. Talk about enlightenment!? I’m anxious about getting completely off of my clonazepam because it helps me “control” my face from turning red. My red face makes me so anxious and I start sweating profusely whenever I’m in a situation that’s embarrassing. Thank God, my menopause has helped me with explaining why my face is so red. This has been going on since I can remember. I think I was 5 years old in school when it first happened. Most people stare at me because my face gets really red. I’ve repeatedly tried looking at people, while my face is turning red, to see if they are truly looking at me and sometimes they are and not. The redness lasts for around two minutes but if feels like hours. What can I do? I want to get off all of my meds but my psychiatrist says to do it slowly. I haven’t listened to all of your podcasts but I don’t think there’s one out there regarding a 49 year old lady suffering from a red face. Maybe an ask David? I hope I’ve been specific enough for you. I cannot thank you enough for everything you do for people. Thank you, Ann Zernone David’s response Yes, we actually had a podcast on this exact thing, and happy to add it to the next Ask David if you like. Best, david 88 Role Play Techniques: Feared Fantasy Revisited https://feelinggood.com/2018/05/14/088-role-play-techniques-feared-fantasy-revisited/ 168 The Blushing Cure https://feelinggood.com/2019/11/25/168-ask-david-the-blushing-cure-how-to-heal-a-broken-heart-treating-anorexia-and-more/ Question #4: Dylan asks: Can you have a delayed reaction to the CBT exercises? Hi David, I’m a big fan of your work. Quick question: do you commonly come across people who do CBT exercises and they don’t get their anxiety or depression levels reduced super low right after doing the exercises but a couple days later they experience the results? Dylan Aames Unfit Productions, LLC President @JohnnyPlissken-xs7hq • 12 hours ago David replies Will talks about having this same experience on the live show.

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7.637 - 26.322 Dr. Rhonda Barofsky

Hello, and welcome to the Feeling Good Podcast, where you can learn powerful techniques to change the way you feel. I am your host, Dr. Rhonda Borowski, and joining me here in the Murrieta studio is Dr. David Burns. Dr. Burns is a pioneer in the development of cognitive behavioral therapy and the creator of the new Team Therapy.

26.482 - 35.905 Dr. Rhonda Barofsky

He's the author of Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States and has been translated into over 30 languages. His latest book, Feeling Great,

36.405 - 67.909 Dr. Rhonda Barofsky

contains powerful new techniques that make rapid recovery possible for many people struggling with depression and anxiety dr burns is currently an emeritus adjunct professor of clinical psychiatry at stanford university school of medicine hello Hi, David, and welcome to our listeners throughout the country, the universe, and the galaxy. This is the Feeling Good Podcast, and it's episode 415.

70.049 - 94.877 Dr. Rhonda Barofsky

And I do have an endorsement to read, and afterward, we're going to do another Ask David. Just me and David. Sadly, May can't join us today. So this is from a really great team therapist, Dan Lenahan, and he wrote you. Hi, David. I was fortunate enough to be one of the original beta testers for the Feeling Great app and knew the potential it had.

94.897 - 118.551 Dr. Rhonda Barofsky

I admittedly hadn't tried the app since the artificial intelligence or AI implementations. So I was eager for the final release. And wow. Talk about, as you would say, blowing it out of the water or knocking it out of the park. When I saw that externalization of voices was a technique, I wondered how could that possibly work? But wow.

119.511 - 146.785 Dr. Rhonda Barofsky

Even the way it does, your whole, it's me, your negative thoughts again, just want to remind you, dot, dot, dot, then shows you the negative thought. And it even asks to do role reversals with you. The interactions are genius and have your essence ingrained in all of the chatbot responses. You have truly found a way to reach even more people than ever before and will continue to as it develops.

147.645 - 151.261 Dr. Rhonda Barofsky

Congratulations on this great success, Dan Lenahan.

152.065 - 180.759 Dr. David Burns

Yeah, that's so neat. Thanks, Dan. You really warm my heart. I sent that to all the members of our app team, especially Jason Minow, who's done so much groundbreaking work in developing our version of AI and training the AI. And it's just so gratifying to see that it's caught your fancy. And if there's any listeners out there who want to support us,

182.4 - 205.634 Dr. David Burns

You know, go to feelinggreat.com, not my website, which is feelinggood.com. Go to feelinggreat.com and you can check it out there or go to either of the app stores, the Apple Store or the Google Play Store. Our app is in there, Feeling Great, and you can take a free ride on it and see what you think.

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