Italy’s Greatest Weapon Is Surrender | Monty vs Rommel (Part 2/4)

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What challenges did the Italians face during their invasion of Libya?

Thank you.
Fin Taylor 0:12
Welcome back to Finn vs. History. I'm with Horatio Gould. And this is part two of the Desert War. Monty vs. Rommel. The most crucial moment in World War II.
Josh Widdicombe 0:24
The most crucial front. We have arrived at the Desert War. The turning point of the war. I mean, it is sort of the turning point of the war, time-wise. It's just, that's probably what happened at Stalingrad. but it is around the time of the war. Stalingrad is irrelevant.
Fin Taylor 0:37
Stalingrad is completely irrelevant to where the war is lost.
Josh Widdicombe 0:41
Yeah, at El Alamein.
Fin Taylor 0:43
At El Alamein Grad. At El Alamein Grad. To recap, Monty and Rommel are two professional soldiers. They have fought in World War I, where they have sort of outlined their new... What was that?
Horatio Gould 0:59
Sorry, that was a hiccup.
Fin Taylor 1:00
Right.

How did Operation Sunflower change the dynamics of the North African campaign?

Josh Widdicombe 1:01
Are you going to have hiccups the whole episode?
Horatio Gould 1:02
I can't confirm.
Fin Taylor 1:03
Right. As a producer, you cannot have hiccups while we're recording. I don't think I can help that. No, you can't help it. It's not a protected characteristic, okay? It's not a Martin Luther King speech, okay?
Josh Widdicombe 1:15
I have a hiccup.
Fin Taylor 1:16
You cannot use hiccups as an excuse.
Josh Widdicombe 1:18
A mortgage, trying to scare him.
Fin Taylor 1:19
Yeah, imagine a mortgage. Imagine being married to a woman.

What role did logistics play in the Desert War?

Josh Widdicombe 1:23
I'd love that.
Fin Taylor 1:24
Imagine being married to a woman who just sees your asshole as a poo gutter and not a playground. Sorry.
Josh Widdicombe 1:31
I don't know what you mean at all there. Come on. You know what I mean? Do you get that, Charlie? No. Your asshole's a playground.
Horatio Gould 1:40
Are you trying to upset me? Yes, I am.

How did Rommel's tactics influence the battles in North Africa?

Josh Widdicombe 1:41
I'm trying to stop your hiccuping. Right. You're going to be so scared.
Horatio Gould 1:44
I'm trying to depress the hiccups out of me.
Josh Widdicombe 1:45
Yes, I am. No, because you know when you scare someone and they no longer have hiccups? He tried to do that by you imagining having a future wife who only viewed your ass as a poo gun and not a playground. And Finn was expecting you to go... I used too many words.
Fin Taylor 2:00
I didn't understand all that. We're in the desert, okay? We're in the desert where assholes are poo gutters and not a playground because there's a lot of sand getting involved. Yes.

What was the significance of the Siege of Tobruk?

Fin Taylor 2:11
Right? The bottoms are not... It's lovely. The bottoms... I'm a professional broadcaster. The bottoms are not clean. It's difficult to clean your bottom in the desert front, okay? This is Melvin Bragg sort of stuff. Unlike the picnic of the eastern front where bottoms are being wiped. Easy. right yeah there is sandy bottoms in the desert okay and these bottoms are italian so they're hairy as well all right yeah as i was saying to you before we started recording i frequently have to cut shit out of my dog's mat that is my actual dog before you make a joke about my wife
Josh Widdicombe 2:44
Yeah, I wouldn't. I'd write them for you to say.

How did the British forces respond to the Italian advance?

Josh Widdicombe 2:51
But you were saying, because you're giving your dog away for a week to our producer, and you've said you're going to pre-cut the shit out of their arse as a favour.
Fin Taylor 2:59
She currently has some dry shit matted into her fur at the back of her arse. If I just gave the dog to our producer, I would be giving other Charlie I would be giving her... Not you, Charlie. I would be giving her basically a shit wrapped in fluff.
Josh Widdicombe 3:15
Yeah. Essentially. So you're going to do it pre-cut. Yeah. But seeing as you have to do that anyway, I was wondering if you could put Charlie in because you've already got the scissors out.
Fin Taylor 3:23
While I'm down there. Yeah.

What was the impact of the first battle of El Alamein?

Josh Widdicombe 3:24
I think if we just give Charlie and we cut some shit out of Charlie's ass.
Fin Taylor 3:26
Cut some shit out of your ass as well.
Horatio Gould 3:27
I don't want you to do that.
Fin Taylor 3:28
Okay. No. You hold on to it like it's some kind of crystal, I imagine. Anyway, we're in the desert, okay? It's September 1940. Italy has invaded Libya. Italy has invaded from Libya. into Egypt. They've crossed into British territory.

What can we learn from the strategies of Monty and Rommel?

Fin Taylor 3:46
And the Brits are like, excuse me, what the fuck? Now, Italians have nearly quarter of a million men. But again, this is a big number. Huge number. That's a big force. It's not a big force because they're Italian.
Josh Widdicombe 4:00
Yeah. And, you know, this is... Practically speaking, five men.
Fin Taylor 4:04
Yes. It's the same as five British men. It's a quarter of a million Italians or a platoon of Brits. Right. The advance has no clear plan.
Josh Widdicombe 4:13
It's a liability. It is.

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