Manchester United: The Ghost of Grimsby
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What sparked the discussion about Manchester United’s Carabao Cup exit?
Jick! Jick! Not everyone deserves happiness and Man United don't either because they're rubbish. Welcome to the football ramble. It's Thursday, 17th of September. I am Pete Donaldson. And I'm Vedition Hunter Wild Jay. Yeah.
Yes, football ramble time on a Thursday. I'm joined by Vish. Fish, you're about to head out to Rainy Cardiff to not watch some cricket, presumably.
Yeah, um it's actually not rainy card if if lucky weather is to believe, then it it shouldn't be really but um
it's a b anything on the bay anything that's got a bay, don't trust it 'cause half of the uh little kind of weather stations are out to sea. Don't trust them. Don't trust them.
Yeah. It's quite a design for that, isn't it? What if all our equipment for measuring measuring weather is just getting wet from the sea? Don't worry about it. Probably just means it's gonna rain in.
But yeah, no, I'm I'm
I'm going off to Cardiff to watch um Sri Lanka smash my motherland to pieces again. Um and I thought before I did that I'd come on this show remotely to talk about the refall of Manchester United. Can you refall or do you just keep going lower?
Yeah, it's kind of like um it's a it's definitely falling down some steps, isn't it? It's a snakes and ladders where there's just all snakes, no ladders.
Yeah, but then you Manchester United seem to also be falling down the ladders as well.
They've found another you know, they've gone past minus one and they've found another um snakes and ladder um board to t to inhabit and fall down.
Yeah, go the playing snakes and ladders and also getting in monopoly jail at the same time.
Yeah, with with no hope of even getting out.
Yeah, do not p you know, do not collect two hundred after passing go or whatever. No, 'cause it's admitted on a
rubbish.
Yeah,
it's all right sorry, Fish. Well yes, uh in the Carabao Cup, uh we have to go first to uh Old Trafford. Manchester United two, Brighton three, Man United have lost to Old Trafford after being two goals ahead for the first time since nineteen seventy six. Lacey and Mount scoring f uh early in the first half. Uh but it was the first time that United have lost at home after holding a half time lead in five hundred and fifty one half time leads. It's it's momentous. Uh I I I didn't realise it was going to be that that momentous, but it was uh it was it was a game of two halves, Vish.
Yeah. Well i it wasn't really actually. It was a game of one fifteen minute period where Manchester United went two nil up.
Right, yes, okay.
And then it was seventy five minutes of oh, this again. Nice. Right, yeah,
nice. Yeah.
It's uh i it's funny how many records Manchester United's four seems to bring up because you think by now, given how long ago say you know the Alex Ferguson's time at the club was, that you'd think by now they would have ticked off all the bad ones. And yet they yeah, you keep coming across new ones like like this two and a half st half time stat, like unexploded World War One bombs. Honey fees. Only fees. Yeah. In the house, uh Um it was Japanese knotweed. Oh no. Yeah. But it was uh well Japanese knotweed, oh it's Godzilla again. Good. Um yeah, it was a strange, strange game from a Manchester United perspective. But actually I think what Brighton did, which I suppose other teams are are used to do against Manchester United, but probably speaks more to their
character and aptitude is that they went two nil down after ten minutes and they actually didn't panic. There was almost uh understanding among them that like Yeah, to be fair, we haven't started very well and you know, Brighton in the way that they play when they zip the ball around in the middle, they weren't doing that as cleanly, in part because they'd made a few changes themselves. Um and they just kept their calm and I thought it was you know, the way they got it back into the game with Costulas' goal in added time of the first half, the fact that Herzler didn't make any changes at half time. Yeah. And that also speaks to I suppose how poor Manchester United were at the back end of that first half, that Brighton clearly sensed going into the break that, you know what, yeah, we could probably actually get this done and in normal time and and they did.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What sparked the discussion about Manchester United’s Carabao Cup exit?
0:00–4:51
2
How did Brighton’s tactics expose United’s defensive frailties?
4:51–10:32
3
Why are fans worried about United’s transfer window and youth development?
10:32–17:09
4
What is the story behind JJ Gabriel’s potential departure from United?
17:09–24:09
5
How did Sunderland’s Europa win reflect the atmosphere at the Wearside Stadium?
24:09–29:13
6
What does the Fleetwood‑Arsenal draw mean for the Carabao Cup fourth round?
29:13–31:40
7
How might Chelsea’s new private‑equity ownership affect the club’s future?
31:40–33:23