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Chapter 1: What key events marked the end of the domestic football season?
Rich in love and slow to anger, everybody. Welcome to the Football Ramble! PSG are European champions and slots gone! It's Monday 1st of June. I'm Marcus Speller. I'm Luke Moore. I'm Jim Campbell. And I'm Vinicius Hunter-Raja. And just like that, the club season was over.
Yeah.
There may be other fixtures in other leagues. We don't care about them.
So we're doing an hour on the World Cup.
Struck yourself in. Struck yourself in. Well done, PSG. Anyway, Thomas Tuchel thinks we've got the squad to win the Cup. That's what we want. It's not a Cup, is it? What is it called? It's a trophy, though, isn't it? It's a trophy.
It's not a Cup.
Yeah, that's right.
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Chapter 2: How did Arsenal perform against PSG in the Champions League final?
I think we've got a chance at the World Trophy.
You can't drink out of the World Cup.
No, you can't.
No. Take it up with... But every now and again, a little Tudor comes up and puts his arm around it thinking it's on a slot.
Exactly. More on Slotty later. But yes, the World Cup is just round the corner. Our England versus Croatia watch party at 40 Foot Brewery in Blackhorse is completely sold out, but tickets are available for the other watch parties. That's the group stage matches against Ghana on the 23rd of June and Panama on the 27th.
We knocked six past them last time on Panama, so I guarantee your goals for that game.
Free beer with every
goal I'm getting looked at now not for the Panama game if you can find Luke Moore for every goal he'll go in hiding he had a very good disguise then get involved tickets are selling fast if you'd like to join us click the link in the show notes and secure your tickets while you still can we'll all be there And I can't stress enough how great it's going to be.
And as Luke, you mentioned before, when the photos start coming out for the Croatia one, there'll be a mass. If there are any left, don't delay. Get them today. Right then, let's go to the Champions League final that happened on Saturday. PSG won, Arsenal won, Paris Saint-Germain won 4-3 on penalties. They've done it. They've won back-to-back Champions Leagues.
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Chapter 3: What were the highlights of the penalty shootout in the Champions League final?
And actually, Arsenal, in that moment, made the most of that. Yeah, they did.
Donnarumma would probably save it. So... I'm not sitting here saying that I think Arsenal should have gone toe-to-toe with PSG. I think we saw what happened in the Champions League final last year. We've seen PSG do what they do repeatedly and they're a brilliant, brilliant side. So I think the approach that Arsenal took was absolutely spot on.
I think the takes that people have made where they're like, oh, well, you know, it's embarrassing going into a final like that and behaving that way and the possession was so low. I think that's bullshit. I do think it's bullshit.
But I do... You didn't think it was embarrassing then? I thought that was a bit over the top.
I thought it was a stain on our country. The World Cup year as well. No, but I do think there's something... Look, you know, in today's society, it's very polarised. You can't have a nuanced take on anything, but let me have a try anyway.
I totally understand why Arsenal approached it the way they did, and I totally understand why they push on the very limit of what is acceptable in terms of... It's almost like they go to the referee... this is on you to referee us now. We're going to make sure that you have to actively referee us and stay in control of us because we are going to try and get away with whatever we can.
And there was a moment after the water break in the first half, which I just thought was ridiculous. I thought the referee had to go over there and say, the water break's over now, PSG are ready.
And it felt- It came back to bite them at the end of the first half though, didn't it?
That's the risk you run, right? Of course. Yeah. Look, I guess what I'm trying to say is I totally understand why they're doing it. It is up to the referee to referee the game. But I don't think as Arsenal fans or Arsenal players or anyone associated with Arsenal, you can realistically plead ignorance as to why you are, quote, hated when you go after the game the way they did.
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Chapter 4: What impact did Arne Slot's departure have on Liverpool?
I don't think there's any other way Arsenal could have approached this game. There have been times this season where myself and others have wanted a bit more out of Arsenal. I mean, when they beat Burnley 1-0 at home, I was like, seriously, come on, put that game to bed. That's what they've done this season. And it's won them the league. And it's so nearly won them the Champions League.
So the idea that they're suddenly going to have a total rethink and become a very different side in the final, especially against a side who... Probably the first and only time this season, other than maybe the odd fixture here and there, like Bayern in the group stage of the Champions League, but we kind of let that go because those sides don't put the afterburners onto the knockouts.
But the first time really this season, they've played a better side than them. So there is that to contend with. But Vish, you know, you were particularly, if I may, on the Ramble WhatsApp group, you thought Eze should have kind of missed the penalty, but you thought he should have brought him on and you were a little bit frustrated by Arteta's tactics.
I was a little, well, I suppose I was a little bit frustrated about not necessarily his tactics. I was more frustrated about how the players were applying them. Right. I suppose.
Kind of, as I said, in terms of lack of composure in the middle, I thought as it should have come on because he gives you that bigger profile in the middle, comfortable on the ball, more ambitious with his passing, both footed as well. And then when he brought on Martinelli, I was like, I mean, I kind of understand why you're doing this, but He's not going to keep the ball for you.
He's going to defend and, like, he's going to make someone, you know, cut in instead of go down the byline. But I didn't think that was needed. But then again, he's Mikhala Teta. I was just watching it from a pub in Northampton. Like, I'm not overly dismayed by that. But the...
I think the thing that you touched on there before you threw to me was just the margins at the really sharp end of the top of the game is that you need a bit of attacking quality. You need quality on the ball, don't you?
And it probably shows in the fact that Arsenal were lacking that because they went unbeaten in regular time throughout the whole Champions League in an open play and they haven't won it.
And when he brought Jacare's on, and obviously I got that point.
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Chapter 5: How did the panel feel about Arsenal's playing style in the final?
Oh, actually, I've missed that. Yeah. He's looking to leave for the next one. Is he looking to? Yeah, we see referees do that. Yeah. We have seen that. You know, I'm not trying to go throw shade on them because it's a tough job and it's the pinnacle of their career as well. So you have to acknowledge that.
But what's interesting about that is that there were, although it was a kind of PSG play like this and Arsenal going to play like this and it's like, who's going to come out on top? And it kind of fought out to a stalemate and obviously it's decided on penalties. Yeah.
there were some flashpoints, some refereeing decision flashpoints in the game, which could have gone either way, which would have made a massive difference. Like, for example, I thought the Saka thing was a definite penalty. I couldn't believe I didn't even check that.
No, I was the same, and apparently everyone in the ground was the same as well.
Right, because he, I mean, literally, first of all, I know... Hey, that wasn't mentioned, sorry to interrupt, but Arteta was talking about the Madoweke one.
Yeah.
He never mentioned that one.
Funny, that, isn't it? It's weird, yeah, it's weird he mentioned that. You mean the Saka handball, where he handballed on his own penalty area? Yeah. Yeah, he also said, Arteta also said, yeah, Arteta also said, yeah, it was frustrating because obviously they got one down the other end. It's like, well, it was completely different.
Sorry, yeah, the fact is that, you know, when he talked about it, it was a definite penalty on Kravitz-Gerry. And the second one, as you say, he got away with.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of Liverpool's coaching changes for the next season?
He's always taken them like that. Yeah.
And I was like, oh, okay. Drives me mentally. Steven Gerrard made the point, didn't he, that it's complicated enough.
And it's not comfortable for me to be sitting here spot on with Steven Gerrard because I think he's hit or miss on his analysis.
And with his penalties.
Well, but the one thing that is, I cannot believe in a world of like detail, and as you were talking about earlier, marginal gains and stuff like that, right? I understand players of that type need to express themselves. That's kind of what they're strong at. But when you step up and take a penalty like that, you are completely disregarding the entire premise of what a penalty is.
A penalty, generally speaking, in open play, for those people who are new to the game or whatever, is awarded to give the advantage to an attacking player, right? Now, the football authorities have decided that a penalty competition at the end of a game is the way to decide a game, right?
The reason everyone says our goalkeepers can become heroes and the rest of it is because no one expects a keeper to save a penalty, right? So what you're doing when you take a penalty like that is you are picking it up, wrapping it up, chucking it in the bin, all the advantage you've ever got already by overcomplicating it and turn it into a game of cat and mouse that you don't need to do, right?
It doesn't make any sense.
Also, the discomfort for a staggered penalty is always most evident in a penalty shootout because it took him ages to get to the ball.
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Chapter 7: How has Declan Rice's leadership influenced Arsenal's trajectory?
Well, that was with the goalkeepers, but that's where you see... Take Harry Kane, obviously, a very, very well-versed penalty taker. That's where you see him do his process and go, right, I've been disrupted, and I'm going to start again.
But realistically speaking...
as well Gabriel's not going to spend anywhere he's not even going to spend a fraction of the time on penalties that Kane is Kane's going to have taken thousands of them literally on and off the pitch he's just going to have done that and the process is there and that's taken as far as I understand it that's taken from um
wasn't there some chat back in the day that's taken from like Johnny Wilkinson for, I believe so.
Picking someone in the crowd.
And going through a process and doing it at the same time. And this almost becomes like second nature. So when, literally when the pressure's on, you can fall back on your technique and you've got that process and it's like doing it in the park. The Gabrielle's not going to have done that.
It's all capoeira.
Exactly. But it's also, and dancing, it's also not, it's not a good use of his time as a professional.
But also as well, look, he's fucking stupid.
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Chapter 8: What are the expectations for Arsenal and Liverpool moving forward?
They're not going to be thinking, there's no way a single one of those players, subs, managers, coaches, any of them would have thought, wow, it's a bit annoying. We should be fucking knocking the ball out a bit more. They're so focused on winning and that's their job. So I think it's really important to make that point.
Also, you see after PSG won the shootout, Declan Rice was smiling, like there was a kind ofā¦ It was a rueful smile. It was a rueful smile, but I think it was a smile that said, thank God that's over, let's get on to the proper stuff. Yeah, the World Cup.
Take me to the US. It gives us something to focus on. Put my penalty away, didn't I?
If you're going to spin it, though, you'd say it gives them something to focus on. Look how long they had to work hard to win the league. They come second so many times.
And if you are going to give the amount of credit, even if you find them a bit of a miserable character, the amount of credit that Arteta needs to have and be given for being able to lift that team over and over again, while he's not only... got a load of pressure on his own shoulders about being the nearly man, about being David Bren, about all these clips that go around about him.
He's also able to lift that group of players, to get them over that hump to win the Premier League, and to do it in the same season in the Champions League as well, it was obviously beyond them, but only just, and it gives us something to focus on next. So it's loads of positives, loads of positives.
Yeah, if they find themselves in a final again in the Champions League. more than 24.7% possession. That's got to be the stat. That's got to be the target.
That's a revenge mission now, isn't it? Get some ninjas in or something.
It's all right beating one team in the back by a state. You've got to beat the second one as well, Jim.
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