TPP 262: Madeline Levine, PhD on Pandemic Parenting and Resilience

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Madeline Levine 0:00
I have never, ever had a kid in my office say You know, my parents just listen too much. Never. They always say my parents talk too much. And my advice for parents now, such as it is, um, is Listen.
Debbie Reber 0:22
Welcome to Tilt Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing, and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. I'm your host, Debbie Rieber. My guest this week is Dr. Madeline Levine, a psychologist with over 40 years of experience as a clinician, consultant, educator, and author. Madeline is also the co-founder of Challenge Success, a school reform nonprofit affiliated with the Stanford Graduate School of Education, and is a highly sought-after consultant, lecturer, and speaker on all issues related to parenting. You may be familiar with some of Madeline's books, including The New York Times bestseller The Price of Privilege, which explores the reasons why teenagers from affluent families are experiencing epidemic rates of emotional problems.
Debbie Reber 1:12
And then her follow-up book, Teach Your Children Well, tackles our current narrow definition of success. But her brand new book and what we're going to be talking about today is called Ready or Not Prepare. Preparing our kids to thrive in an uncertain and rapidly changing world. And I have to say, I think that Ready or Not is really the perfect book for what we're collectively experiencing right now. In our conversation, we talk about the ideas behind her book, what Madeline sees as the lessons and gifts of the pandemic, why she thinks hope and optimism are the ultimate life skills. Yeah. Just like Madeline's book, this was a thought-provoking conversation for me. I hope you get a lot out of it. And as always, thank you so much for being part of this Tilt Parenting Revolution.
Debbie Reber 2:01
If you want to stay in the loop about important news, new classes, and special live events, sign up at TiltParenting.com. Thanks so much and now here is my conversation with Madeline. Hello, Madeline. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much. I'm excited to have this conversation with you. Um, we haven't had a done a podcast before, but we know each other. We've been in conversation. We've had lots of interesting conversations along with a lot of other folks about the issues we're gonna talk about today.
Madeline Levine 2:39
Right. I have to I have to tell you, Deb, that I did really a thorough look at the work you've done, which, you know, I sort of know you from chatting, but I am Stunned by the amount of work. That went into um The podcast, but also tilt parenting. And I I really didn't have any idea how far reaching and important it was. So That was a pleasure to find out. Thank you so much. That means so
Debbie Reber 3:07
much to me. Thank you. You're welcome. Well, you have such an incredible body of work. And um, you know, you've written a number of of really big books. You wrote an incredible book, The Price of Privilege. I think that was probably 2008, 2009. Um, where you really pulled back the curtain on uh the ways in which growing up privileged um ra was actually resulting in a slew of emotional problems and hurting kids healthy development. And you have another amazing book called Teach Our Children Well, where you talk about the short-sighted definition of success. And now you have this incredible book, which is so timely that we're going to be talking about today. It's called Ready or Not, Preparing Our Kids to Thrive in an Uncertain and Rapidly Changing World.
Debbie Reber 3:54
So I would love if you could just tell us about that book and why you wrote it in the first place.
Madeline Levine 4:00
So it's kind of an interesting story. I I wrote it for two reasons. Uh the first one probably was my sense that while the other books I had written were very popular and there's a a cadre of us, the people in our group, but other people as well, going out around the country with the same message, which is, you know, pull back a little bit. Um, performance is not everything. Uh, there's a whole bunch of other things that matter um for kids to have good lives. And while individually I was feeling like I was making progress, the reality was that

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