TPP 366: Natasha Daniels on Helping Kids Crush OCD

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Natasha Daniels 0:25
Lane. Anxiety is avoidant, OCD's bossy. So OCD wants things to happen. It's demanding. It's got a list of rules you have to follow, or things you have to avoid, or things you have to say or do. And then it hooks other people in. And so it's it's more of a dictator versus anxiety, which is often avoidant.
Debbie Reber 0:46
I'm Debbie Rieber and welcome to Tilt Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing, and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. It's been a while since we've talked about OCD on the show. So when Anxiety and OCD expert Natasha Daniels reached out about her new book, Crushing OCD Workbook for Kids, I was excited to get into it all and pulled together a lot of questions ready to make. This conversation as helpful as possible for our community. You may know Natasha Daniels from her popular AT survival parenting podcast or some of her other books like Anxiety Sucks, A Teen Survival Guide, How to Parent Your Anxious Toddler, Social Skills Activities for Kids, and It's Brave to Be Kind, or maybe from her past visit to this show.
Debbie Reber 1:34
Natasha has more than two decades of experience. As a child therapist, and she combines her clinical expertise with her lived experience in her work, as she is raising three kids with anxiety and OCD. You may have also seen her work featured in places like Huffington Post, Scary Mommy, Psych Central, The Child Mind Institute, and The Mighty. So, for today's conversation, I wanted to do a deep dive into OCD and learn more about what it is, how it manifests, signs of OCD that might be missed by parents, how to tease out when something is OCD versus anxiety or ADHD or other types of neurodivergence. And lastly, how parents can support their children if they have OCD. And of course, Natasha shared some helpful insights and tools.
Debbie Reber 2:20
tools from her new Crushing OCD workbook for kids, which is a truly powerful and easy-to-use resource for any child navigating OCD and the challenges that come along with it. Here is my conversation with Natasha Daniels.
Debbie Reber 2:39
Hey Natasha, welcome back to the podcast. Yeah, thanks for having me back on. I appreciate it. Yeah. Well, I appreciate you reaching out to tell us about your new book, which we're gonna get into. It's an excellent resource. So congratulations. It's called Crushing O C D workbook for kids. But we're gonna talk about OCD today because we haven't discussed this on the show in quite a while. There's a lot to get into. I think people don't know what they don't know when it comes to OCD, and there's a lot of ideas about what it means. So I'd like to really make sure listeners walk away with a clear understanding. So I would love if you just want to take a few minutes to talk about why this became a focus of your work and how it weaves into your work as a therapist.
Natasha Daniels 3:20
Yeah, I really don't know, to be honest. I started as a general child therapist and then I just loved working with kids with anxiety and OCD. And then after that, my kids, all three of my kids developed anxiety and OCD. It's it's rampant genetically in my family. So it's not too shocking. I just found giving tools in a concrete way was just so rewarding and There's just so many things that you can do around that issue to see progress. And so I just found working with that population was the most rewarding.
Debbie Reber 3:55
So you were doing this work first and then you're like, oh, actually that doesn't happen so often. You know, I hear from a lot of practitioners who shifted their focus after the fact.
Natasha Daniels 4:06
Yeah. It's kind of ironic in a cruel sort of way.
Debbie Reber 4:12
Okay. I would love to just start with the definition of OCD. What is it?

What motivated the host to revisit OCD and invite Natasha Daniels?

Natasha Daniels 4:17
Yeah, this actually surprisingly is not understood, I think, in the general way.

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