TPP 432: A Conversation with Zoe Bisbing About ARFID & Neurodivergence

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Zoë Bisbing 0:24
Maybelline. Some kids with ARFID are so exquisitely sensitive that they can like tell if a tiny little ingredient in a Pringle has changed. And then all of a sudden it's not an acceptable chip anymore. And it's like, nothing changed here, but they'll be able to tell. So if you're noticing that your kid has sort of like an exquisite sensitivity, like can really pick up on these things. These are the things that are so easy as a parent to invalidate or to say, oh, this is ridiculous. It's the same thing that it was yesterday. but not really being able to be flexible, not really being able to tolerate change of brands. I'm not saying it's inherently a problem, right? But it will require more accommodation and it requires us to think about this as ARFID as opposed to just like picky eating.
Debbie Reber 1:16
I'm Debbie Reber and welcome to Tilt Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. If your child has extreme food aversions, anxiety around eating or struggles with a very limited diet, you won't want to miss this conversation. Today we're diving into ARFID, avoidant restrictive food intake disorder, or as my guest describes it, picky eating on steroids. To talk about ARFID, I circle back to Zoe Bisping, a licensed psychotherapist and the director of body positive therapy, NYC, who specializes in treating eating disorders and body image concerns with an affirming neurodiversity friendly approach. Zoe.
Debbie Reber 1:57
Zoe holds a Master of Social Work from NYU, a Bachelor of Arts from Smith College, and a certification in family-based treatment from the Institute for Child and Adolescent Eating Disorders. Today, she's sharing her expertise on the unique ways ARFID presents in neurodivergent children. In this fascinating conversation, Zoe broke down what ARFID is, how it differs from other eating disorders, and why she sees it as a form of neurodivergence in its own right. We talked about how sensory sensitivities, anxiety, and even trauma can contribute to restrictive eating, and how the pandemic exacerbated these challenges for so many kids. Zoe also explains why traditional eating disorder treatments often don't work for ARFID and why a child-centered, individualized approach is key to building a positive relationship with food.
Debbie Reber 2:46
If you've ever felt frustrated, worried, or unsure about how to support your child's eating challenges, this episode will give you some practical strategies and some new affirming perspectives that might change the way you've been thinking about these issues. And a small ask before I play the conversation. If you enjoy this episode, please hit the share episode button on your app and send it to a friend or post a link to it in a community of parents with neurodivergent children. I know that when families are struggling with complex challenges like ARFID, it can be difficult to find neurodiversity affirming resources. So let's get this one out there. Thank you so much. And now here is my conversation with Zoe Bisping.
Debbie Reber 3:32
Hey Zoe, welcome back to the podcast.
Zoë Bisbing 3:35
Thank you, Debbie. It's so nice to be here with you.
Debbie Reber 3:37
It's nice to have you back. When I have returned guests, I go back and look, how long ago was that conversation? And it was March of 2020. Like what a crazy time in history. Was it? It was. We probably recorded before everything went down, but it was released in March of that year. So first of all, five years ago. It's really nice to see you again. We have such an interesting topic to explore together today. But I always ask even return guests to take a few minutes and introduce themselves and talk a little bit about why they do the work that they do.

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