A Strategic Path Forward for Hospice & Palliative Care: Ira Byock, Kristi Newport, Brynn Bowman

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What is the purpose of Ira Byock’s new white paper on hospice and palliative care?

Eric Widera 0:00
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Alex Smith 0:09
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Eric Widera 0:21
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Alex Smith 0:35
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Eric Widera 0:40
Welcome to the JerryPal Podcast. This is Eric Wadera. This is Alex Smith. And Alex, we got a lot to talk about today. We're going to be talking about, oh, the a white paper that one of our guests wrote on a strategic path forward for hospice and palliative care, potential future for the field. Who do we have on to talk about this paper with us?
Alex Smith 1:02
And the author of that paper is with us. That's Ira Bayak, who's a returning guest at JerryPal. Ira is a palliative care doc. He's the author. He's one of the founders and past presidents of the American Academy of Hospice and Palliative Medicine. And he's joining us from Missoula, Montana. Ira, welcome back to the JerryPal podcast.
Ira Byock 1:22
Thanks so very much. Thanks for doing this. It's a pleasure to be with you.
Alex Smith 1:25
And we're delighted to welcome Christy Newport, who is a palliative care doc and chief medical officer of the American Academy of Hospice and Palliative Medicine, and also Chief of Palliative Care at Penn State Health. Christy, welcome to Jerry PAL.
Kristi Newport 1:38
So happy to be here.
Alex Smith 1:40
And we're delighted to welcome Bryn Bowman, who is Chief Executive Officer at the Center to Advanced Palliative Care. Bryn, welcome to the JerryPal Podcast.
Brynn Bowman 1:49
What a privilege and a pleasure to
Eric Widera 1:51
be hanging out with you guys. So we got a lot to talk about, kind of where we are with hospice and palliative care, where do we see things going? But before we do. Christy, do you have a song
Kristi Newport 2:02
request for Alex? Of course I do. And I I picked the song We Can Do Hard Things. This is uh in my rotation of music that I listen to when I'm leaving a really difficult day that I just belt out in the car. But um, I think specifically for this podcast, you know, I was reflecting on the fact that today's leaders were trained by people like Ira, who were trailblazers and disruptors. Um, and in my 17 years of practice and in my 10 months in the role of CMO for H. PM, I've learned that the folks who are leading the field now are just as passionate and they're just as willing to do hard things and they're doing hard things every day. So I think the song exemplifies my confidence that um we are gonna continue to work together to do the hard things to ensure good, good quality, evidence based, uh serious illness care for our country.
Alex Smith 2:55
Great choice. I love this message. Here's a little bit.
Unknown 3:03
I walked through fire, I came out the other side. I chased desire I made sure I got what's mine. And I continue to believe. That I'm the one for me because I my our plan. We're adventurers and heartbreaks our map. A final destination we lack. We stop asking directions. To places they've never been, and to be loved we need to be known to finally find our way back home and through the joy and pain that our lives bring. We can
Eric Widera 4:22
do hard things. That's wonderful. Christy, who sings that?
Kristi Newport 4:29
Just melting. A young singer, songwriter.
Eric Widera 4:33
Oh, that's wonderful. Thank you. Okay, uh, let's gonna we got a lot to cover in our time together. I'm gonna turn to Ira first. Ira, we heard that you were a founding member of AHPM, you were a a board member, you're a past president, you've created amazing things in palliative care. Why did you decide to write a white paper about hospital? Hospice and powder medicine. And a particularly a strategic path forward. And talking about maybe some of the problems that we're having. Why this paper and why now?
Ira Byock 5:11
You know, th this is, like everything else I've written, I think, somewhat therapeutic for myself. I'm take um this is about self-care. I'm well into my fifth decade in this field.

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