Dermatology in Older Adults (GeriDerm): Daniel Butler and Eleni Linos
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GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast
52 min
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How can older adults keep their skin healthy and what moisturizers or sunscreens should they use?
This episode of the JerryPow Podcast is sponsored by Geriatrics at the San Francisco VA. They are looking for a CLC medical director, nursing home director, and also a director of their consult service. Pretty amazing job, right, Alex?
Amazing jobs. You get to work with people like us. You get to get to work with us. And who knows? Could be you being a guest in the future.
If you want to know more about this, you can actually email me erictawadera at uccf.edu or check out the show notes. We'll have links to the job positioned on the show notes. And if you're also interested in advertising your own job openings, feel free also to email me. I can tell you a little bit about that's how we support these shows is through donations and some of these job requests. So on to the show. Welcome to the JerryPal Podcast, this is Eric Widere. This is Alex Smith. And Alex, today we're doing Jerry Durm, geriatric dermatology. Who do we have with us today?
We're dis delighted to welcome Malini Linos, who is a dermatologist and researcher at Stanford. She's associate dean of research at the Stanford School of Medicine and also leads the Center for Digital Health. Welcome to the Jerry Powell podcast long overdue.
Thank you so much for having me. It's so nice to be with you both.
And we're delighted to welcome Daniel Butler, who's a dermatologist and researcher at the University of Arizona Tucson. And he's married to a geriatrician. Daniel, welcome to JerryPow.
Thanks for having me
guys. So we got a lot to cover on geriatric dermatology, including I got this mole right here that I just wanted to it's probably like you're probably sick of that joke, right? So uh we have a lot to cover, but Daniel, I think you have a song request for Alex. Is that right? I do. What's the song? Uh
I've got you under my skin by Frank Signature. Do I dare ask why did you choose this song? Tough tough to say. It just came to me. Yeah, won't I in a dream. All right.
All right, here's a little bit.
I've got you. Under my skin. I've got you. Deep in the heart of me. So deep in my heart, you're nearly a part of me. I've got you. On the mask. I've tried so Not to give in. I said to myself this affair never gonna go so well. But why should I try to resist when darling I know so well? I've got you. Under my skin.
That was great.
I love singing Frank Sinatra. Thank you, Daniel. That's a that was a great one. Thanks.
All right. Uh before we dive into the big topics of geriatric dermatology, I just love to hear from both of you briefly how you got interested in this as a topic. Daniel, I'm gonna start off with you. Is it because you married a geriatrician or is this pre pre
existing? This is this was a pre existing condition. Um, you know, I I thought I was gonna be a geriatrician. I I had a a little bit of a circuitous route in medical school. I kinda liked everything. And uh I was actually in geriatrics clinic with Mindy Fain, uh who's a famous geriatrician and You know, I was there and I was really interested in in in focusing care on older adults. And everybody there was concerned about their skin. You know, they would have these, you know, more mortal conditions like heart disease or or or cognitive impairment. And and then they would ask about the itching or the spot on their skin. And so as a student, I started to to get interested in who was looking at that and uh there weren't many people.
So I said, hey, that's a that's a big grassy field to run in. And the other one that makes me interested in it. And I would I I have to mention now is I had four of the greatest grandparents that anybody could ever uh ever want. And uh I just lost my last one about three weeks ago. But they really showed me that aging is a something to be honored and is is a sort of a really unique practice. And I I know dermatology has a complex relationship with aging because we talk a lot about anti aging. Mm-hmm. But I felt like it would be really fun to to talk about that that honoring of aging and being part of that journey.
Oh, that's wonderful. And the the U of A folks, University of Arizona geriatricians are just so marvelous.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
How can older adults keep their skin healthy and what moisturizers or sunscreens should they use?
0:00–6:38
2
What inspired Daniel Butler and Eleni Linos to focus on geriatric dermatology?
6:38–13:58
3
What are the best practices for sun protection and moisturization in aging skin?
13:58–19:51
4
How should clinicians decide whether to treat actinic keratoses or basal cell carcinomas aggressively versus watchful waiting?
19:51–27:31
5
What is the actual risk of actinic keratoses progressing to cancer and how often should they be biopsied or removed?
27:31–34:47
6
How should chronic itch in older adults be evaluated and managed without relying on antihistamines?
34:47–40:41
7
Can artificial intelligence and digital tools improve diagnosis and management of skin conditions in older adults?
40:41–48:28
8
What are the future directions for AI‑assisted teledermatology and longitudinal skin monitoring in geriatric patients?
48:28–52:50
Speakers
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