Elder Mistreatment Prevention and Solutions: Carrie Rubenstein, Julia Hiner, & Tony Rosen

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What terminology should we use for elder mistreatment versus abuse and neglect?

Eric Widera 0:00
This podcast is CME Eligible. To learn more about CME Alex, what do we do?
Alex Smith 0:05
They can either go to the CME tab associated with this episode, or they can go to jerrypal dot org backslash CME.
Eric Widera 0:14
And on to the show. Welcome to the Jerry Powell Podcast. This is Eric Wadera. This is Alex Smith. And Alex, today we're going to be talking about elder mistreatment, prevention, and solutions. Who do we have on with us to talk about this topic?
Alex Smith 0:26
We are delighted to welcome Julia Heiner, who is a geriatrician and fellowship director at the University of Texas Health Science Center in Houston. Julia, welcome to the Jerry Powell Podcast.
Julia Hiner 0:39
Thank you so much. I'm thrilled to be here.
Alex Smith 0:42
And we're delighted to welcome Carrie Rubinstein, who is a geriatrician and fellowship director at Swedish in Seattle. Carrie, welcome to JerryPal.
Carrie Rubenstein 0:51
Wonderful to be here. A longtime listener, first time guest. Wow, this is a first
Eric Widera 0:56
time K.
Alex Smith 0:58
And Tony Rosen, emergency medicine doctor and researcher, and I know him from the Beeson meeting. He's at Wil Cornell and New York Presbyterian Hospital in New York City. Tony, welcome to JerryPal.
Tony Rosen 1:11
Thanks very much. Really appreciate the invitation. Excited to talk to you guys.
Eric Widera 1:15
So we have a lot to talk about. We did do a podcast on elder mistreatment. Was it six years ago, Alex? Six years. With Laura Muscada.
Alex Smith 1:22
Laura. It's
Eric Widera 1:23
kinda an update where we are right now as far as prevention and solutions. But before we get into that topic, Tony, do you have a sign request for Alex?
Tony Rosen 1:31
Yes, I'd like Alex or we'd all like Alex to play Eleanor Rigby. Why did you choose this song? Well, I mean, Eleanor Rigby is obviously an amazing song, one that we've all kind of known the words to since we were kids. And I think we all sing along. In fact, I think I've actually sung along with Alex on this song many times over the years. But it's really, it's a course, it's a song about loneliness. It's a song about loneliness for older adults with social isolation and even perhaps sort of societal neglect and folks who go unnoticed. And I think we're hopefully going to discuss during the session, but There are a lot of opportunities that we can prevent elder mistreatment by increasing social connectedness and social services.
Tony Rosen 2:11
So really excited to hear Eleanor Rigby.
Alex Smith 2:14
Love that. Here's a snippet.
Unknown 2:20
Eleanor Rigby picks up the rice in the church where a wedding has been lived in a dream, waits at the window, wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door. Who is it for all the lonely people? Do they all come from? All the lonely people, where do they all belong?
Eric Widera 2:54
Wonderful. We'll have a little bit more of that song at the end of that podcast. Carrie, I'm gonna start off with you. I initially called this Elder Abuse. That was the name of the podcast title. And you suggested something different that we should be using Elder Mistreatment, Prevention and Solution as our title. Why did you suggest that?
Carrie Rubenstein 3:13
Eric, thanks for asking that question. Abuse is a scary word. I think words matter and Nobody wants to think about, engage, or even really talk about abuse. Um, but in our field, you know, mistreatment, prevention solutions, this is a way to really focus on the opportunities, you know, like Tony's already said, that we can bring to the table, that we can intervene, that we can creatively care for the most vulnerable people.
Illia Polosukhin 3:48
Yeah. And
Julia Hiner 3:49
people give you a funny look if you say you're into elder mistreatment. You gotta couch it with some prevention and care for sure.
Eric Widera 3:56
Well, let me ask you that, Julia, because like when I think about I thought I thought it was elder mistreatment was both elder abuse and neglect. I'm pretty sure I actually had that in our podcast with Lauren Buscada. Is that not no longer the words that we should be using or is it something different?
Julia Hiner 4:14
I think the words that are in vogue kind of come and go. And you know, it depends on who you talk to, but I think what's ultimately most important is how we're reaching down from, you know, the proverbial ivory tower to the people we're taking care of. What do our patients understand? What words are they using?

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