Family Meetings for Patients with Serious Illness: Podcast with Eric Widera

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What is the purpose of the NEJM family‑meeting video and how did the idea originate?

Anne Kelly 0:01
The JerryPow podcast is brought to you by Archstone Foundation, preparing society and meeting the needs of an aging population. And now,
Eric Widera 0:09
here
Anne Kelly 0:10
are your hosts.
Eric Widera 0:12
Welcome to the Jarrett Powell Podcast, this is Eric Radera.
Alex Smith 0:16
This is Alex Smith.
Eric Widera 0:17
And Alex, who is our guest today? Today our
Alex Smith 0:20
guest is you. And you and you and you and you. Wait. You are our guest, Eric. You are the New England Journal of Medicine publication and video. Why don't you introduce yourself?
Eric Widera 0:34
Hello everybody, this is Eric Guanera. Um and uh I had the the luck to work with some really amazing people over the last well many, many years on a project for uh a New England Journal of Medicine. clinical video on family meetings, which is really like you know, all of the other videos around procedures and the goal of this was to highlight that communication skills are just as important and should be considered as procedures. And it's really cool because everybody else on this call, including a couple of people not on this call, really helped put this together. Alex, do you want to start calling on names? We'll start um talking about who's with us today.
Alex Smith 1:15
Yes. We're going to start with James Frank. Go ahead, James.
James Frank 1:18
Hey, thank you both for having me on. I'm really excited to be here and so happy uh to have this uh project completed. I'm James Frank. I'm uh pulmonary and critical care attending physician at uh UCSF. Uh and uh program director for the fellowship in pulmonary critical care medicine.
Alex Smith 1:37
Terrific. Uh Lex Me.
Lekshmi Santosh 1:40
Hey everyone, awesome to be on the famed Jerry Pell podcast. I'm Lekshmi Santosh.

Who are the co‑authors and what roles did they play in creating the video?

Lekshmi Santosh 1:46
I started my involvement in this project as we'll talk about back in the day during fellowship because an amazing mentor and sponsor named James Frank. brought me on. So thanks to James. Now several years later, I'm also on faculty at UCSF in Pulmonary Critical Care and Hospital Medicine. And I'm the associate program director of the fellowship. So thanks again, James, and thanks to all of you.
Alex Smith 2:09
Welcome to Jerry Pell Podcast, Lex Me. Welcome back, Wendy. You want to introduce yourself?
Wendy Anderson 2:14
I'm Wendy Anderson. I'm a palliative care physician at San Francisco General Hospital and UCS Staff. Really nice to see everyone.
Alex Smith 2:21
Great. And and Kelly, who's returning for the I don't know, thirtieth time, fiftieth, I
Anne Kelly 2:28
also the voice on my way back in.
Eric Widera 2:30
The voice of Jerry Powell.
Anne Kelly 2:32
I'm Ann Kelly. Oh yeah. I'm
Eric Widera 2:35
star
James Frank 2:35
of the video. Yeah, sorry.
Anne Kelly 2:37
Uh well I'm a social worker at the palliative uh with the palliative care team at the San Francisco VA. And as James was just saying, I was very honored to play a supporting actress role.
Alex Smith 2:47
That's great.
Anne Kelly 2:48
Oh, I would say. My debut.
Alex Smith 2:53
Oscar nomination. I think these are eligible. These knee gym videos, these are eligible for Oscars.
Eric Widera 2:59
And and two other people not on the call. Kathleen Turner, uh, from nursing at UCSF. She's dealing with a code blue right now in the hospital. So we're gonna miss her. And also Conna McKee from the San Francisco VA, one of our Palaf Care doctors there. Um she's out sick this afternoon or evening, so we're gonna miss her too. And bef yes. I was gonna say before we get into the side. Well, I gotta
Alex Smith 3:26
say it now because you gotta do the song. So before we get into the topic, we need a song request, Eric. Last time we were I requested a song, you requested a song. It was My Milkshake Brings All the Boys to the Yard. Pure Torture. What do you got for us this time?
Eric Widera 3:42
Well, I was gonna do uh Rockstar uh by I think it's uh the baby, but I decided that we weren't gonna do that for Alex. Alex um Any song from the descendants. Not the like the Disney one, but the George Clooney movie.
Wendy Anderson 4:00
Which was what I asked for.
Alex Smith 4:06
So why the Descendants George Clooney movie?
Eric Widera 4:08
Okay. So I I think A, I really love the soundtrack. Um and uh the setting of the movie is amazing. But more importantly, the the movie is um uh based on you know that you have this family that's living in Hawaii. Uh there is an accident with the wife, she is in an irreversible The advanced director says that she would not want to be kept alive on it. And a final decision, I don't want to give away the whole movie, but a decision is made around this.

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