GeriPal Live! at NPCRC Foley Retreat: Dio Kavalieratos, Prasanna Ananth, Alexi Wright

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What is the setting and purpose of this GeriPal Live episode?

Eric Widera 0:00

This episode of the Jerry Powell Podcast is sponsored by the UCSF Division of Palliative Medicine, an amazing group of palliative care clinicians doing amazing care.

Alex Smith 0:10

UCSF Division of Pallid Medicine is dedicated to doing interdisciplinary work. They're dedicated to making a broad and inclusive environment for working. And we've had many of the members of the Division of Palliative Medicine on the Jerry Powell podcast, including Naomi Sachs, Danny Shamas, Kara Bischoff, Carly Zapata, Steve Pantalat, and Mike Raybo, among others. This is a terrific group of people, and I think you'd love to work with them.

Eric Widera 0:41

And if you're interested in learning more about the business and please check out our show notes and click on the link. And best of all, if you take the job, you can hang out with me and Alex. What's better than that, Alex? Nothing. Welcome to the Jerry Powell Podcast. I'm Eric Wadera. I'm Alex

Alex Smith 0:58

Smith. And Alex, where are we today? Today we are in Banff. We are at the Casaline Foley Palliative Care Retreat and Research Symposium. Beautiful Banff.

Eric Widera 1:10

Beautiful Banff. We've done some great hiking. We've listened to some great talks.

Alex Smith 1:14

I did a painting class today.

Eric Widera 1:16

Painting painting. Uh and today we're gonna do something that we tried out at Capsy in Philly just not too long ago, which is we're gonna mix up just a little bit about how we do the Jerry Powell podcast. So as usual, we've invited guests, but um I love PBS. We're in Canada right now, but I love the fact that in the US we do have this station called PBS, and they have this show in some locales, which is called Check Please. Anybody ever listen to Check Please? We got a Check Please. Oh good. Okay, we got a couple of hands. Where they invite three guests to be on the show. And each guest picks their favorite restaurant. All three guests then go to the restaurant, eat a meal, come back, and they share their experiences.

Eric Widera 2:02

Starting off with the first guest, like, why did you pick this restaurant? And then all the guests talk about their experiences with that restaurant. We're gonna do the same, but with research studies or articles that we've invited three guests. They could pick any article that they want, they could pick their own. They could pick other articles. All of our guests then will read all three articles. We talk about why it's important, why do they pick this article? And then we'll kind of hash it out together. Alex and I are gonna be usually the hosts, but we're gonna ask all of you to be the hosts too. So we have two microphones out there, so you can ask questions too. Importantly. The key thing is make sure your question and uh ends with a question mark.

Eric Widera 2:45

So it always should be a question. It's like Jeopardy. Yeah. It's not

Alex Smith 2:49

Eric Widera 2:50

statement. It's a

Alex Smith 2:51

question.

Eric Widera 2:51

It's a question to our three guests about the article, why do they choose it? What's important about it? Um, but do bring it in.

Alex Smith 2:58

And you can include commentary, but you gotta keep it brief. Yeah.

Eric Widera 3:02

Brief. Because we only have about 15 minutes for each article.

Unknown 3:05

Yeah.

Eric Widera 3:06

And as usual, we're gonna start off with a song, but before we do, we're gonna do introductions slightly different, Alex. Yeah for introductions? Yeah for introductions. Yeah, we're gonna. Yeah,

Alex Smith 3:13

we're gonna ask our guests to introduce themselves to reduce complexity here. Prasna, why don't you go first?

Prasanna Ananth 3:18

Hi, everybody. My name's Prasana Anant. I am a pediatric oncologist at Yale.

Dio Kavalieratos 3:23

Great. And Dio. Hi folks, I'm Dio Cavaliertos. I'm a health services researcher and the division chief of palliative medicine at Emory University.

Alex Smith 3:29

Great, Alexi.

Alexi Wright 3:31

Hi, I'm a medical geo and oncologist at Dina Farber Cancer Institute and a health services researcher.

Eric Widera 3:36

Perfect. Welcome.

Alexi Wright 3:37

Thanks for having us.

Eric Widera 3:38

And then we always start off with song requests. Prosa. Who has the song request? Prosa?

Prasanna Ananth 3:44

So uh about a month ago, well Eric and Alex had told us that we should think about a song that reflected Canada, so Canadian singers.

Who are the three guests and what articles did they choose to discuss?

Prasanna Ananth 3:55

So I was thinking about my song choices. There are a lot of different songs to choose from. And about a month ago, my son came back from school and said, hey, in writing, we learned about irony.

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1 What is the setting and purpose of this GeriPal Live episode? 0:00–3:55 2 Who are the three guests and what articles did they choose to discuss? 3:55–12:42 3 Why do palliative‑care clinicians get fired and how does that affect primary palliative care? 12:42–21:34 4 What are the economic arguments for expanding palliative care globally and should the US model be the standard? 21:34–30:40 5 How does cancer care in prison illustrate gaps in palliative‑care access for vulnerable populations? 30:40–39:09 6 What definitions and core components should define palliative care across settings? 39:09–48:27 7 Should there be international or minimum national standards for palliative‑care delivery? 48:27–57:16 8 What are the final take‑aways and next steps for listeners and the GeriPal community? 57:16–57:39

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Eric Widera 11 min Alex Smith 8 min

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This is the second GeriPal podcast we've recorded live using this format, see this link to our prior podcast at the Center to Advance Palliative Care (CAPC) meeting in Philadelphia. Also look for our upcoming podcast recorded live from the São Paulo Geriatrics & Gerontology Congress, click here to register. Today we join you from beautiful Banff, Alberta, Canada at the National Palliative Care Research Center (NPCRC) annual Kathleen Foley retreat. This meeting was bittersweet. I've been fortunate to attend every meeting in one capacity or another since 2006. The NPCRC made an enormous impact on the growth and capacity for palliative care research nationally. Personally, NPCRC funding was essential support as I was a new faculty member and had not yet secured longer term career development funding. More than anything, though, I will miss the NPCRC community. I treasure those meals, hikes, sing-alongs with others dedicated to improving care of people with serious illness through research. On today's podcast, we invited Dio Kavalieratos, Prasanna Ananth, and Alexi Wright to join us to talk about three articles that spoke to them. For each I leave you with a teaser of a hard question that was raised that we couldn't really answer. Prasanna chose an article by Abby Rosenberg about being fired in palliative care. We talked about why palliative care clinicians get fired, with Prasanna, a pediatric oncologist, raising the issue that it's more problematic when you're the oncologist providing primary palliative care and you get fired than if the consultant specialty palliative care provider is fired. Dio chose an article about the economic benefits of palliative care internationally, a call to action. We talked about the needs of palliative care internationally, and Alexi raised the question: should the highest standard of palliative care (e.g. in the US) apply to palliative care in every country, a la the Partners in Health model pioneered by the late Paul Farmer? Or should we "settle" for access to affordable opioids? Alexi chose an article about cancer care in prison. Alexi used it as a springboard to talk about other populations at compounded risk for poorer care in the current political environment. We hope you enjoy this one as much as we did, dear listeners. We're always trying to improve, and welcome your suggestions for how to improve upon this new "live" format. So far we've heard we need to be better at summarizing the articles for the audience/listeners, and finding ways to involve our live audience to a greater extent than the occasional question. Please let us know if you have other suggestions! Final note - check out the wonderful video NPCRC created about their impact on the field of palliative care (Eric and I were filmed recording GeriPal). -Alex Smith This episode of the GeriPal Podcast is sponsored by UCSF's Division of Palliative Medicine, an amazing group doing world class palliative care. They are looking for physician faculty to join them in the inpatient and outpatient setting. To learn more about job opportunities, please click here: https://aprecruit.ucsf.edu/apply/JPF05811

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