Inflammaging: Brian Andonian, Sara LaHue, Joe Hippensteel

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What is inflammaging and why does it matter for aging research?

Eric Widera 0:00
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Alex Smith 0:04
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Eric Widera 0:09
Welcome to the JerryPound Podcast. This is Eric Quadera. This is Alex Smith. Alex, we're gonna be talking about inflammaging. Inflammaging. Inflammation and aging. I I'm not a hundred percent sure what it is, but our guests do. Who are our guests today? Our
Alex Smith 0:23
guests today are Brian Andonian, who is a rheumatologist and geroscientist at Duke. Brian, welcome to the JerryPal podcast. Hi, thanks for having me. And Sarah LaHue, who is a neurologist and gyroscientist at UCSF. Sarah, welcome to JerryPal.
Sara LaHue 0:39
Hi, good to see you.
Alex Smith 0:40
And Joe Hippenstiel, who is a pulmonary and critical care physician and geroscientist at the University of Colorado. Joe, welcome to Jerry Powell.
Eric Widera 0:48
Hi. Thanks for having me. So I'm excited to learn about inflammation. But before we do, we always have a song request for Alex. Sarah, do you have the song request for Alex?
Sara LaHue 0:59
You know, so there was a lot of uh I think internal debate over what the song should be, but finally settled on We didn't start the fire by Billy Joel.
Eric Widera 1:08
Why did you pick weed and start the fire?
Sara LaHue 1:11
I just trying to think about uh setting up this conversation talking about uh inflammation uh inflammation and uh uh I think the line always burning since the world's been turning is a bit like chaotic low grade inflammation. So I think it'll set a set us off on the right note.
Alex Smith 1:27
And also the three of you didn't start the fire. You're not responsible for the inflammation. You study it. We're trying to put it out. Exactly. And there's a We
Sara LaHue 1:36
are the firefighters.
Alex Smith 1:38
You're the firefighters. There we go. And there's a great um documentary I think about Billy Jewell. I haven't seen yet, but I've heard is quite good. Oh. I I gotta see it. Okay, here we go.
Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnny Ray, South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe Damaggio, Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, Television, North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe.
Rosenbergs, H-Bomb, Sugar Ray, Panam, John Brando, the King and I, and the catcher in the rye. Eisenhower vaccine, England's got a new queen. Marciano, Liberacci, Santayana, goodbye. We didn't start the fire. It was always burning since the world's been turning. We didn't start the fire. No we didn't light it, but we tried to fight it.
Eric Widera 2:34
Now you gotta do that with like but all the words are like prostaglandin, IL six TNF. Yeah. Um
Brian Andonian 2:42
I was half expecting that. I mean, cellular senescence.
Eric Widera 2:46
At the end. At the end of the show. We'll see. Um, well, let's start off. I tried to actually do some background research on inflammation before we got on this podcast. I failed miserably. Because I try to listen to a bunch of podcasts and videos about it, but the only thing I found was like people trying to hawk me skincare products and like vitamins to prevent inflammation. So there's like a lot of like skincare podcasts that talk about inflammation. Um so unfortunately I failed. We did get a good article, which I I read, which I'll put up on the show notes, but we Would anybody willing to give me like a one or two liner on what How should I think what inflammation is? Who wants to start?
Brian Andonian 3:34
Yeah.
Joe Hippensteel 3:34
Hunting to Brian. I think Brian's the Leave it
Brian Andonian 3:37
to the rheumatologist to talk about inflammation. Well, I mean inflammation is inflamm aging is really just referring to chronic and progressive inflammation that's related to aging, but then is linked to aging associated diseases. So There's other ways we can talk about it if you guys want to jump in, but that's the basic principle behind it.
Eric Widera 3:58
So yeah, aging associated diseases. Um That's a lot of diseases, right? Like pretty much most diseases increase as you age, whether it be, you know, dementia, Alzheimer's disease, diabetes, uh cancers. Is that ever like we're spanning everything. Yeah. I think you're right. Yeah, osteoarthritis and like you name it.
Sara LaHue 4:22
And I think that's one of the goals of of of the work that we're doing here. And Brian, I'll I'll turn it back to you, but I think just to set off the conversation around um why it's important that this is a transdisciplinary framework that we pose, because you know, we are coming from different medical subspecialties and

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