Leadership, Quality, and the Future of Hospice: Guests Chris Comeaux and Cordt Kassner

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What is the purpose of this “podcast‑within‑a‑podcast” and who are the guests?

Eric Widera 0:00
this podcast is CME eligible. To learn more about CME, Alex, what do they do?
Alex Smith 0:05
They can either go to the CME tab associated with this episode, or they can go to jerrypal.org backslash CME.
Eric Widera 0:14
And on to the show. Welcome to the Jerry Pal podcast, Alex. This is more than Jerry Pal podcast. I forgot. I got to let you introduce yourself, Alex. Oh,
Alex Smith 0:26
this is Alex Smith.
Eric Widera 0:27
This is Eric. I don't even know how we start this anymore
Chris Comeaux 0:31
because we're doing a
Eric Widera 0:32
combo
Chris Comeaux 0:33
podcast. This is a podcast within a podcast. This is like,
Alex Smith 0:37
and we're making history here. This is new for us. We're building this airplane as we fly it. So we're delighted to welcome Chris Comeau, who is a leader, coach, author in hospice and palliative care. His book is called Anatomy of Leadership, and he's the host of TCN Talks. with frequent guest host, Cord, is that appropriate? Yeah, guest host. And TCN Talks is a podcast that's focused on leadership, strategy, innovation, and the future of serious illness care. Chris, welcome to Jerry, pal.
Chris Comeaux 1:13
Man, thanks for having us. This is really cool. Cord had tweaked me and I'm like, what if we call these guys and say, what if we do a podcast within a podcast? And here we are.
Alex Smith 1:23
And I guess we're joining your podcast, too, because these will be released around the same time. Our other guest is Cord Kastner, who is a hospice leader and CEO of Hospice Analytics, which provides in-depth data on hospice quality, utilization, and access. and also publishes Hospice and Palliative Care Today, which is a daily email newsletter about the hottest topics in hospice and palliative care. Cord, welcome to the Jerry Powell Podcast.
Cordt Kassner 1:55
Alex and Eric, thanks so much. This is such an honor to be here with you
Eric Widera 1:58
guys. I love this too, because I hear both of your voices. It's like, I actually am an avid listener to TCN Talks. I think it brings up a lot of really good points as far as like, the last one I heard was around certificate of need.
Cordt Kassner 2:12
We're
Eric Widera 2:13
going to get into all this stuff so much. I have questions. We're going to do something different. We're going to do some roundtable questions, just going around talking about hospice leadership quality. But before we do that, on Jerry Pal, we always start off with a song request. Who has a song request?
Chris Comeaux 2:31
I have a song request, and so it's Love Hurts. I'll tell you why after you perform
Alex Smith 2:36
it. So after? Okay, well, that's
Eric Widera 2:38
good. Isn't there more than one version? There's
Alex Smith 2:41
like
Eric Widera 2:42
Everly Brothers, and there's like...
Chris Comeaux 2:44
The
Eric Widera 2:44
Nazareth? Nazareth. That was...
Chris Comeaux 2:47
Which version of About Ready to Be Performed is now going to be my favorite?
Alex Smith 2:51
I'm not going to sing in the high vocal range of Nazareth. Here's a little bit.
Unknown 2:59
Love hurts Love scars Love wounds And mars Any heart Not tough Or strong Enough to take a lot of pain, take a lot of pain. Love is like a cloud, it holds a lot of rain. Love hurts. Ooh,
Eric Widera 3:37
love hurts. Stay to the end of the podcast. Alex is going to do the Nazareth version.
Unknown 3:45
That
Chris Comeaux 3:46
was
Unknown 3:47
awesome, Alex.
Chris Comeaux 3:49
Well, first off, you guys remind us, we're taping this the day before Valentine's Day. So it had to be some type of love theme. And I thought, this work is so sacred to us. And it hurts, but we love it and we do it. And, you know, we've been pioneers creating palliative care, creating hospice across the country. And there are days of amazing joy and there's days of amazing pain. So that's why I chose it.
Eric Widera 4:11
Oh, that was beautiful. Well, we're going to do something different than our usual podcast on our end, is that we're going to do kind of roundtable discussions as far as questions. And we're going to pose questions to each other.

What are the top hospice news stories and trends highlighted by the hosts?

Eric Widera 4:23
And I'm really excited because, again, I'm a very avid listener to TCN Talks. So actually, I think I get to start this. And my question is, I'm going to first open up to Gord. We'd love to hear others. But one of the reasons I love TCN Talks is I get to hear about all the best hospice news that's coming around. Court, my question is going to turn to you. What are the kind of the top news stories that you've covered recently?
Cordt Kassner 4:50
You know, thanks for the question, Eric. It's like I said, it's such a pleasure being here with both of you.

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