Longevity Treatments - Snake Oil or Breakthrough? John Newman & Mahtab Jafari

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What is the main focus of the Longevity Treatments discussion?

Eric Widera 0:00
This podcast is not C Me Eligible. If people do want to learn more about C Me Eligible Podcasts, Alex, what do they do?
Alex Smith 0:07
They can go to JerryPal dot org backslash CME.
Eric Widera 0:12
And on to the show. Welcome to the Jerry Pow podcast. This is Eric Rudera. This is Alex Smith. And Alex, we're going to be talking about longevity long pronounce it. Longevity. Longevity sights. I don't know what's wrong with my tongue today. Miracles or Snake Oils? That's gonna be the topic. Who do we have with us?
Alex Smith 0:31
We're delighted to welcome Matab Jafari, who's a professor of pharmaceutical sciences and director of the UC Irvine Center for Health Spain Sciences. We met at the UCSF alumni reunion and you know, she was talking to me about how sh she had been approached by several media outlets about this or that longevity medication. I thought, oh boy, this would make a great podcast. So thank you so much for joining us, Matab.
Mahtab Jafari 0:56
Thank you for having
Eric Widera 0:57
me. Zot za go and eaters. That's my uh yeah, that's my alumni right there. Oh, yeah. Undergrad. Yeah.
Alex Smith 1:04
Anteaters. I didn't know that. Anteaters. Okay.
Mahtab Jafari 1:07
You can do two. That's that's
Alex Smith 1:10
not Is that the sound an anteater makes?

How did Mahtab Jafari become interested in longevity research?

Alex Smith 1:11
That is learning a lot on that podcast.
Eric Widera 1:13
Yeah, you go you watch an anteater, they're just constantly zoning.
Alex Smith 1:16
It's uh um and John Newman, uh, who has been a frequent guest on this podcast, is a geriatrician and geroscientist who works at the Buck Institute in Marin as well as UCSF. John, welcome back to the JerryPell podcast.
John Newman 1:31
Yeah, thanks for having me again. And so much has changed since the last time we talked about this stuff. So
Eric Widera 1:36
I'm excited to learn how to live forever.
Alex Smith 1:39
Yeah, I think that was the song request the first time John was on. Who wants to live forever? Not easy to sing, that queen stuff, by the way.
Eric Widera 1:47
So we got we're gonna lotta talk about. We'll be talking about why you guys got interested in this and uh uh what's the goalposts and what meds are promising and which ones potentially are snake oils. But before we talk about all of that. Song request? Who has the song request today?
John Newman 2:02
I had the song of crest, although we had we had a mind milled on the song of Crest.
Eric Widera 2:05
Yeah.
John Newman 2:05
Well what is the song? Wake Me Up by Avici, which I love because to me it's it's a song about aging. It's a song about the tension between like you wanna you wanna keep this like vibrancy and the open horizons of youth. But but also there's a lot of stress of not knowing what's gonna happen and how you're gonna get through it. And when you're older, you have this self assurance, you know who you are, you've like you've done the journey. And but what if you could just meld the best parts together? And that's kind of what we're gonna talk about.
Alex Smith 2:37
Oh, that's great. And Matab, you have a connection to this song too. You wanna share that with our listeners?
Mahtab Jafari 2:42
Sure. I was so excited then uh John uh suggested this song because I happen to know the songwriter and the artist Alo Black, who is uh one of my Absolute favorite people on this planet, not because he's an amazing artist, because he's also a great human being. So I I almost listen to this song, believe it or not, every day. I feel like I need to listen to it. It just calms me down. And uh with John's description of the song, now I have new insights. Now I'm going to listen to it a little bit more carefully, because he's right.
John Newman 3:16
Well what is what is it actually about, according to the person who wrote it?
Mahtab Jafari 3:20
You know, everybody interprets it differently. And that's a good question. I should I should ask Alo that question. I've never asked him that question. He just knows that I this is one of my I would say this is my f favorite songs. I don't wanna say one of my favorites. It's like number one and then
Alex Smith 3:37
Okay, before we raise the bar too high, let me play my little interpretation of the first person chorus. Here's a little bit.
Unknown 3:49
Feel my way through the darkness. Got it by a beating heart. I can't tell where the journey went. But I know where to start. Tell me I'm too young to understand. Say I'm caught up in a dream. Life will pass me by if I don't open up my eyes. Well that's fine by me.

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