Reframing Aging: A Podcast with Patricia D'Antonio
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GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast
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What is the Reframing Aging Initiative and why was it created?
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Welcome to the Jerry pal podcast. This is Eric.
This is Alex Smith
and Alex. I see two familiar faces. Who do we have on our podcast with us today?
Welcoming to the podcast, we have Trish D'Antonio, who is Vice President of Policy and Professional Affairs at the Gerontological Society of America and Project Director of the Reframing Aging Initiative. Welcome to the GeriPel podcast, Trish.
Thank you.
And we have Ken Kavinsky who pretty much needs no introduction, repeat guest host at the Jerry Pal podcast and a professor of medicine, UCSF division of geriatrics. Welcome back to the Jerry Pal podcast, Ken. Thanks for having me back.
And we're going to be talking about reframing aging, why it's important. What is it? How should we be thinking about talking about aging maybe differently, but before we do, Trish, do you have a song request for Alex?
I do. Um, I like the birthday song from the Beatles. Well, a couple of reasons. Um, one, I think it's important for us to celebrate our birthdays, especially as we're talking about aging, right? We're all aging. We should all celebrate birthdays. Um, the other thing is that, um, as we're doing our work in reframing aging, um, One of the places where you can see ageism just right out there are birthday cards. And so what I often do when I'm presenting is I ask people to think about birthday cards they might have sent recently, think about birthday cards they received. And I have a couple of birthday cards that I show for just examples of how we really perpetuate ageist tropes in birthday cards. So I thought, let's celebrate birthdays.
That's great. All right. Well, I went a little electrified for this, so we'll see what happens.
They say it's your birthday It's my birthday too, yeah They say it's your birthday We're gonna have
a
good time I'm glad it's your birthday Happy birthday to you I feel
like you gotta smash the guitar now.
How did Patricia D'Antonio become involved in geriatric pharmacy and age‑ism research?
Thank
you so much. That was great.
Thank
you. Okay. Trish, um, reframing aging. Um, how, how did you get interested in this from a personal perspective and maybe from a GSA perspective too?
Sure. So so I have worked in aging. I'm a pharmacist by training board certified geriatric pharmacist. I've worked in aging most of my career. So older people are very important to me. I worked as a consultant pharmacist and started in college in pharmacy school. So how we respect older people has always been very important to me. The Reframing Aging Initiative started with the leaders of aging organizations. So there are now 10 national organizations. The CEOs came together and said, you know, what's the piece that's holding us back that's common across all of our organizations? And really what it was, was, you know, the problem of ageism in policy, right? So we can't get policy across because people, policymakers,
Not overtly, but we know that we all have implicit bias and that implicit bias around aging is kind of preventing us from getting our message across and getting our systems straightened out. So that's how we got started in it. The research started back in 2014, 2013. So it's really been a fascinating progression for reframing aging.
Yeah, I started fellowship in 2005 and I remember sometime after 2005, between that and the start of the reframing and aging initiative, man, the amount of times I've heard the word like silver tsunami, oh my God, like we have this silver tsunami that's going to crash down. And this was like from geriatric leaders in our field trying to advocate, like we need more support. Because there is this silver tsunami coming and trying to scare everybody into doing something. And it may have had, it sounds like it did not do what we wanted to do and maybe scare people away from doing anything.
You raise a good point there because I think one of the things, as this project moved from the research to how do we get it out into the field, you think about this and we started with the aging advocates and aging experts because we're our own worst enemy.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the Reframing Aging Initiative and why was it created?
0:06–2:39
2
How did Patricia D'Antonio become involved in geriatric pharmacy and age‑ism research?
2:39–7:04
3
What evidence‑based research supports the Reframing Aging framework?
7:04–11:20
4
How does age‑related implicit bias affect policy and health‑care decisions?
11:20–16:39
5
What language and narrative strategies are most effective for reframing aging?
16:39–21:15
6
How can clinicians and organizations apply the Reframing Aging toolkit in practice?
21:15–26:37
7
What lessons did the COVID‑19 pandemic reveal about ageism and public perception?
26:37–31:19
8
What concrete policy and system changes are needed to support older adults?
31:19–47:02
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