Zelensky told to leave White House after clash with Trump
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What happened during the meeting between Zelensky and Trump at the White House?
We begin this podcast with the clash in the White House heard around the world. What began as a much anticipated meeting to discuss a route to a peace deal to end the war in Ukraine ended with President Trump and his Vice President J.D. Vance berating President Zelensky and accusing him of gambling with World War III. Here's some of it.
You're gambling with World War III, and what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country.
In this entire meeting, have you said thank you? You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country. Please, you think that...
If you will speak very loudly about the war, you can... He's not speaking loudly. We are staying in our country, staying strong. From the very beginning of the war, we've been alone. And we are thankful. I said thanks in this cabinet. You haven't been alone.
We gave you, through this stupid president... $350 billion, we gave you military equipment, and you men are brave, but they had to use our military equipment. If you didn't have our military equipment, if you didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been over in two weeks.
In three days. I heard it from Putin. In three days. This is something you... Maybe less. In two weeks. Of course, yes. You don't have the cards. I'm thankful.
You're buried there. Your people are dying.
You're running low on soldiers.
Listen, you're running low on soldiers. And your people are very brave. But you're either going to make a deal or we're out. And if we're out, you'll fight it out. I don't think it's going to be pretty. But you don't have the cards. But once we sign that deal, you're in a much better position. But you're not acting at all thankful. And that's not a nice thing. I'll be honest. That's not a nice thing.
What was the Kremlin's response to the White House meeting fallout?
Subsequently, President Zelensky left the White House, reportedly told to leave on Mr Trump's instructions. Our Russia editor Steve Rosenberg spoke to Helena Humphrey in Washington about the Kremlin's response.
So far there's been no comment from Vladimir Putin about what happened in the White House. Then again, President Putin doesn't need to say anything, really, about what happened in the White House. Not right now. He can afford to allow events to play out. You remember Donald Trump a little bit earlier, he said that this is going to be great television. Well, you can just imagine the Kremlin leader sitting in front of the television set and enjoying the spectacle, the spectacle of his fiercest enemy. The leader of the country that Vladimir Putin invaded three years ago being so publicly rebuked by the President of the United States and the Vice President of the United States in front of the world's media. Quite astonishing.
So no comment from Vladimir Putin, but we have heard comments from Dmitry Medvedev. He is the former Russian president who is now the deputy head of the Russian Security Council. And he wrote on social media that after what happened, he's calling on America to stop military assistance to Ukraine. Wouldn't the Russians just love that?
And Steve, what do you think this tells us about relations between the United States and Russia right now? Are we witnessing a shift?
A seismic shift, absolutely. I mean, just look at what's happened in the last two weeks or so, right? It began with that phone call between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump, I think on the 12th of February. America bringing the Kremlin leader back in from the cold. We've seen U.S.-Russian talks beginning at a high level.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What happened during the meeting between Zelensky and Trump at the White House?
0:50–2:42
2
What was the Kremlin's response to the White House meeting fallout?
2:42–6:29
3
How did Trump explain his actions in the aftermath of the White House clash?
6:29–10:08
4
What are the international reactions to the US-Ukraine diplomatic breakdown?
10:08–15:02
5
What is the current health condition of Pope Francis?
15:02–25:05
Speakers
21 identified
Jackie Leonard 6 min
Steve Rosenberg 2 min
Tom Bateman 2 min
Claire Gengrave 2 min
Rob Watson 2 min
Donald Trump 1 min
Carl 1 min
Stephanie Prentice 1 min
Rémi Greletti 1 min
Mayani Jones 1 min
Vincent Dowd 1 min
Julian Marshall
Antonio Guterres
Jean McKenzie
Volodymyr Zelensky
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Dr Aaron Motluaedi
J.D. Vance (quoted)
Unknown Speaker
Helena Humphrey
Kath Wilkie