In a culture obsessed with youth, what has it been like to undergo the ageing journey whilst being a familiar face on our screens? Petra Bagust and Jaquie Brown discuss their own respective experiences of ageing in the public eye, as well as how this cultural space has shifted over recent years and the changes they hope to see in the coming decades. We also meet Lillian Grace founder of figure.nz who talks how her hair colour affected her presentation and sense of success in the business world. Song credit: Korimako, Performed by Aro, Written by Emily Looker and Charles Looker and published by Songbroker. Support the show: https://greyareas.nz/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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