Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Happy Memorial Day. It is an all skate with all of the I've had it, IHIP news people on board today. Of course, I am Jennifer. She is Pumps. Pumps, raise your hand. There she goes. She is Kylie. And then we have Ryan and then we have Seth. How is everybody? Happy Memorial Day. How it's going to go is I've asked each member of our team to pick a story they would like to share with the class.
And I want to call on Kylie first. Okay.
At first I've got this clip of Michelle Obama. She went on this podcast and this clip went viral and I'm super interested to get your response on it. Okay.
Yeah, I can't look some people in the face and tell them you have no right to be angry or to do something that maybe is against your own interests. That's what that's human nature. Many of the people who voted for my husband twice, twice. And I know that that's how they feel. It's like this isn't this isn't about anything other than I'm just we need we need something different.
They voted for Donald Trump. Yeah. You know, it's a lot of people. So you can't just. pigeonhole them and say, you just don't care and you're racist or whatever you're thinking. This is an act of, I don't know what else to do.
I do think some people for sure voted for Donald Trump because they're racist, but I think a lot of people didn't. And I also think that black people, particularly somebody like Michelle Obama, who's in that position. are very cautious about how they speak about accusing somebody of being racist. And they are intimately aware of the backlash for doing that.
And she's correct that some people that voted for Obama twice then voted for Trump. And in those individual cases, I would say that perhaps those people aren't racist.
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Chapter 2: How does the guest feel about Michelle Obama's recent comments?
But I definitely, growing up in Oklahoma, I've heard a lot of racist shit said about Michelle Obama and Barack Obama. And I think we still have a racist problem, but I don't want to be in the business of... Michelle Obama is incredible. We're lucky that she's publicly speaking now and podcasts.
She's an inspiration for women and particularly Black women who always get pushed to the bottom of the totem pole. But it's interesting. She's very educated. She's a lot smarter than I am. She's a lot more mature than I am. She's a lot better person than I am, Michelle Obama.
Yeah, I completely agree. I don't think that only racists voted for Trump, but I think if you're a racist, the only candidate you voted for was Trump. I mean, I don't think they're all racist, but I don't think there were very many racists that came out for Harrison Walls or Biden. I just don't.
Yeah, I think that's probably right. And I think that it's our job to call them out because I think black people get an additional layer of racism piled onto them when they call it out, which is unfair. Seth, you sound like you were gonna say something.
What do you think about, do you think there was a large swath of the electorate that, I feel like as Americans, we've kind of gone into this cycle where everything goes by so quickly. Do you think that there were voters out there that have such short-term American memory that they forgot how shitty he was in his first term and they just voted for him a second time?
Totally. We have no attention span. We're really, I mean, culturally very instant gratification, impulsive, we're a lot of bad things. And Trump is a representation of all of our worst character defects into one person.
You can't underestimate how dumb some of these people are that are voting. I mean, I remember I was reading a focus group that we talked about on one of the I Have News episodes of people that voted for Trump and now regret it.
One of these people said that the reason that they voted for him was because they thought that he was going to completely abolish all taxes so they would not pay taxes at all anymore. So I think that... He's not, that's true. So I think it's kind of exactly like Pump said, you know, if you're racist, you voted for Donald Trump, but not every person who voted for Donald Trump is racist.
That being said, they are enabling a racist, so.
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Chapter 3: What insights are shared about the impact of racism in America?
At that point, I disagree with Michelle. I think they're almost worse. I think I would rather... be around somebody who just owns who they are than somebody who covers for somebody who is homophobic or racist. The people that partake in it in a passive way, secretly, that is the most, those are the most insidious forms of bigotry. Those are the forms of bigotry that have the most air.
The secret bigotry that people cover up to me is the absolute most insidious. Okay, let's see who is next. Let's go to Seth. Seth, what is your story?
Okay, so as we're all woefully aware, Senator booster box Mark Wayne Mullen is no longer just an Oklahoma problem. He's now a national, maybe even international problem that everybody has to deal with. I've got two slides here. The first one, this was a Kansas City Star opinion piece that they posted about a month ago.
In it, he says how Kratom Giant got what it wanted from RFK and New Homeland Security Chief opinion. And you'll look at this photo here and it says, Secretary Kennedy with his friend and Botanic Tonics founder, J.W. Ross. I want you to remember the name J.W. Ross. And I'm going to read you just a short little excerpt from this opinion piece. A funny thing happened down in Oklahoma in December.
After two years of inaction caused by a federal court backlog, the Justice Department finally won a key ruling in its case against the makers of Feel Free, a controversial and widely popular gas station drug that claims to have been the proprietary mix of Kratom and Kava.
The decision put the government in position to present evidence, test its claims, and potentially shut down a company whose product has faced widespread allegations of harm. But 12 days later, the DOJ walked away from its own case. Why?
The answer likely has something to do with the overlapping relationship between United States Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Mark Wayne Mullen, the former US Senator from Oklahoma, who recently appointed Homeland Security Secretary, and a convicted fraudster named Jerry Cash. And you might say, who's Jerry Cash?
Well, I know exactly who Jerry Cash is. I know Jerry Cash.
Jerry Cash is J.W. Ross. She changed his name after leaving prison for embezzlement.
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Chapter 4: How do the hosts view the relationship between politics and sports?
And I remember Ryan and I were like, who is this weirdo? And he's basically because for a man in Oklahoma that presents the way Jerry Cash presented, which was kind of. oil guy cowboy to admit that he's into screwing men was very not normal in the bible belt so fast forward and jerry cash um marries a woman and they're building this huge house remodeling this huge house in uh nichols hills and um
Then Jerry Cash goes to prison for some sort of shit to do with, I'm sure- Inbezzling from Quest, his former company.
Yes, that's what it was.
Inbezzling. So he goes off to federal prison and then he gets out of federal prison and he rebrands to J.W. Ross. and goes out to california changes his name uh wife stays with him the whole time and then she changes her name too and then of course now he's traded her in for a younger model And he's into this Kratom shit, which this guy's just a total, it's perfect that he's friends with RFK Jr.
It's perfect that he's in the whole Trump regime because he likes boys, he likes girls, and he likes boys and girls. I about died when you put that up, Seth, because I knew immediately that J.W. Ross was Jerry Cash. And I will never, as long as I live, ever forget the time that my friend and I were sitting at the bar and got hit on.
by the same man who openly talked about his bisexuality, which was something that Oklahoma men just were not that comfortable with doing. And then there was, you know, I mean, he's just a complete train wreck, but it makes perfect sense that he's selling Kratom
Yeah, he actually started a company in Broken Bow, Oklahoma. And then, this actually brings up my next slide on Markwayne Mullen. So, this was put up by PunchUp on their substack earlier this month. DHS secretary under fire over large, quote, gas station heroin investment. And it says that Markwayne Mullen pushed a federal kratom crackdown while holding stake of up to $1 million in a company.
That sells it. And I'm willing to bet that that company may be in Broken Bow, Oklahoma and may involve our buddy, Jerry.
I'm kind of willing to bet that Mark Wayne Mullen with a few belts in him would be the type of guy that would say, I like boys, I like girls and I like boys and girls. You know, there's a real fine line. Kylie and I talk about this all the time. There's a real fine line between like rural people and lesbians or rural people in and these bisexual men that like to switch hit.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the Supreme Court's recent decisions?
Now I would like to play a video. So all of us on this stream right now, we're all Oklahoma City Thunder fans. Ryan was kind of, he's a basketball plant. I am. And we told him in order to work for us that he needed to be a Thunder fan. So he met us at the Thunder Bar. And I was able to pull that off because the head of my HR is my personal assistant, Anna, who happens to be Kylie's girlfriend.
So I told Anna, if you get an HR complaint, because I told the new hire, Ryan, that he had to be a Thunder fan, rip it up and throw it in the trash. And so we've just moved on. So I digress. Everybody is a Thunder fan on this stream. And I love the Oklahoma City Thunder. But I, and we're playing right now currently, the San Antonio Spurs.
And I have to say, I have to give credit where credit is due. Wimby is not only a sensation on the court, he is the real deal as a human being. He was asked about ice and he used his platform and he said this, play the clip.
PR has tried, but I'm not going to sit here and give some politically correct, you know, I know, I mean, every day I wake up and see the news and I'm horrified. I think that it's crazy that some people might make it seem like, or make it sound like it's acceptable, like the murder of civilians is acceptable, you know?
Every day, I mean, I read the news and sometimes I'm asking very deep questions about my own life. But, you know, I'm conscious also that saying everything you know that's on my mind would have a cost that's too great for me right now so it's uh i'd rather not get into too many details
OK, so I just think that people of conscience need to speak out about this. It is not political. Speaking out for innocent people and speaking out for human rights and speaking out against fascism is not political. It is moral. And I don't even consider our podcast to be political anymore. I consider it to be one of morals, because right now you see two distinct camps, people that
suck up to fascists, people who are too cowardice to speak out to fascists, and then you see the fighters. And the people who remain silent are every bit as bad to me as the people who, like Stephen Miller, who openly brazenly bask in their support of fascism and their support of bigotry. And then you have the fighters. And all of us here, this is a starting five of fighters. I'm Wimby. Or SGA.
You can be Shay. I'll be Chet. Okay.
I'm Nick Collison.
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Chapter 6: How do the hosts discuss the role of black athletes in combating racism?
Like just such an unbelievable talent and to have a platform like that and to know that you're going to get so much pushback, especially, you know, being a foreigner playing in the U.S. I think there are so many... celebrities and just people who feel so burnt out from this administration.
And I think maybe that's a small part in why there aren't as many people speaking out as there were during Trump's first term. But it's so important because the stuff that he's doing right now is some of the worst stuff he's ever done. And we need more people speaking out about it.
Let me ask a question, because I took part of what he said as him being kind of honest that maybe he would get in trouble with the NBA if he spoke out. Or the other camp would be he would just get a lot of blowback from fans. What did you think?
When I heard that, okay, first of all, San Antonio former head coach Greg Popovich is extremely politically active and very progressive. So for him to say that about, I don't want to get in trouble, I kind of felt like it was more NBA fan. I think that with the shut up and dribble crowd, I think that that whole movement has had a chilling effect on these players.
But again, the NBA empowers their players to speak out way more than like the NFL. But I just thought, you know, here's the deal. It's anyone's First Amendment right to say how they feel. Yes, you have to expect the consequences. But it's stunning to me that he has to think like I, you know, I'm currently live in the United States.
And if I say something against this administration, it will have blowback. I might have to have my visa pulled or whatever the ramifications that he's thinking of. And I just think that it's a sad, sad day.
This Trump administration for freedom of speech, assembly, all the freedoms that we are so used to and take for granted, I think that they have really been like trampled on in this administration.
I think the fact that he is foreign and from France and he chose to do it shows you how cowardice a lot of Americans are.
Yes.
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Chapter 7: What are the main criticisms of current political figures discussed?
Here is encapsulating Katie Miller from high school.
reporter said if i could find one person that would say they were their friend were her friend i should get a pulitzer prize that's a lot and then she there was at her school which both she and stephen miller are from the very affluent jewish families she goes to the school she has a teacher in high school that is teaching black history and katie miller says Why do we have to learn history?
Why can't we just tell them what happened? Got in an argument with her black teacher and quit going to class. She is, like, I kind of thought, like, how does somebody get married to Stephen Miller? Not only is she as bad, she might be worse. And that is a low bar. Like, I think Stephen Miller is the worst of the worst in this administration.
And here's one thing I just thought you guys would love. I have to bring it up. So prior to meeting Katie Walden, who is now Katie Miller, and they've only been married since 2020. This is their fourth kid. She or he was at a family dinner and someone asked before he met her, how's your love life? He went fucking ballistic. and was like, nobody can talk about that. That is off limits.
I'm like, of course, because she's the only person on the planet that would actually go out with him because she's every bit as bad as he is. So those were just my little takeaways that I thought were super interesting about her. That'll really make you believe in soulmates, doesn't it? It will. She's from Florida. He's from California. How did these hateful people find each other?
You're off to a flight.
Yeah. They say love finds a way, hate found a way in this regard. For sure.
For sure. Yeah. I mean, these two people, it just cracks me up how she is... Like she's, you know, into her podcast, she's, Americans are short-sighted, MAGA Americans are even shorter-sighted and they're breeding, they're having all these babies. And I mean, Stephen Miller will be one of the very first when accountability comes.
That motherfucker with that face and that little body will be one of the very first thrown under the bus. And Trump and others will do it enthusiastically because he just looks like a villain. There is a body of evidence supporting what a villain he is, what a racist he is, how he wants to be a student of Joseph Goebbels, et cetera. And they just, you know, it's high times. Let's all breathe.
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Chapter 8: What closing thoughts do the hosts share about activism and change?
Okay. And last but not least, Ryan.
I will just say that if it is the Thunder and the Knicks in the NBA finals, I will be rooting for the Knicks. And I'm sorry if that's an HR violation.
I'll take it up. I'll take it up with Anna. So you're rooting for the Knicks, huh?
I am.
I mean... You're not worried about job security at all? I just want to our listeners, as of the end of the finals, especially if the Knicks win in the Thunderdome, I'll be salty AF and I'll be hiring a new producer. I will be a distant memory.
Well, let's hope it doesn't come to that.
Here's the thing. I love basketball, and I think it's fun to smack talk among friends. You know, cheer for this team, cheer for that team. At the end of the day, all of these guys that play for all of these cities that we care so much about, they can be traded and be in a new city like that. So I think some of those people take it way too seriously.
But I do love the Thunder, and if the Thunder get past Wembley, who is like a freak genetically and is a total physical specimen. If they get, and badass, you know, as far as human rights go. If they get past him, it will be a clean fucking sweep. The New York Knicks, it's gonna be salty. Wah, wah. And I plan to go.
to these games and I'm going to be decked out in OKC merch from head to toe and I want the fuck yous. I want them to just verbally abuse me because that will feel good. I want to be a masochist. I want to be at Madison Square Gardens and face verbal abuse because I will like it. You will face it. I will enjoy it. Wouldn't you, Pumps?
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