Chapter 1: What are the current operations of ICE and their impact on American citizens?
The current operations by ICE, they're not about migrants. They're about terrorizing American citizens. We see, again, almost every day protesters are shot. We see in Minneapolis flashbangs on completely innocent people that are exercising their First Amendment right. Kylie put this up. You can see that ICE just goes in and shoots flashbangs. They're using chemical weapons.
These people are just standing there. If you're listening, all you're seeing is flashbangs against a group of people that are standing there exercising their First Amendment rights. So my question, and Jennifer and I have talked about this, is who are these people in ICE? Because it seems like the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, they're pretty quiet right now.
My guess is all the white supremacists are currently employed by ICE with their $50,000 signing bonuses. So what does it take to be an ICE agent? I found a fabulous article that a journalist, Laura Jadid, who is anti-MAGA, anti-Trump. She goes in and on a whim, she says, I'm going to apply for an ICE job. So the title of our article, you've heard about who ICE is recruiting.
The truth is far worse. I'm the proof. So she starts going through the application process. She goes to the places where they're interviewing people. And the article's great, but if you go through it, you find out this. I thought this was an important statistic. When Donald Trump took office, ICE numbered approximately 10,000.
Despite this event and her event, only 150 people came, her interview event, the agency reported 12,000 new recruits in 2025. And what she found out is that she goes and applies. They do not do a background check. They ask her to fill all this stuff out online. She doesn't do it. and she is still hired. So what she determined is that they are not background checking.
She even had pot in her system and she was still hired. And then after she put declining the offer, they still came after and wanted her to take the offer. That's how desperate
they are and they made it very clear in these meetings where they're talking to recruits that it's mostly very liberal cities san francisco los angeles where groups will come and try to stop ice so it surprises me zero there's zero background checks they're zero follow through on background checks security drug testing because they just want warm bodies who are depraved
yes um i think that the biggest red flag that i'm seeing with a lot of this is that the budget for ice and the manner in which it increased and if you follow along with what donald trump campaigned on he campaigned on this um joe rogan recently said we just can't have the gestapo stopping people for their papers trump campaigned on that joe and you endorsed
him for that and this is exactly the police state that they want to bring an american public that has been raised and has immense pride in our civil liberties we have immense pride that we have the first amendment we have immense pride that we can say i think donald trump is an absolute abject piece of small hand teeny weeny that we can say that and that's our right to say it.
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Chapter 2: Who are the people being recruited by ICE and what are their backgrounds?
This is a domestic terrorist organization masquerading as law enforcement and we will not take the bait. We actually support cops. We actually support human beings. We actually support a multicultural society. And ICE would hire a dead pig. That's the qualification that they would do. ICE must be abolished. And Democrats, they have to come out and say it. It's a moderate position right now.
Polling has shown, since Democrats love to crowdsource, polling has shown that the desire to abolish ICE among the American public is a moderate position, not a leftist position.
Well, because here's the thing. They want to terrorize American citizens. And I hear from Kristi Noem all the time after she was defending the man that murdered Renee Good. She said, well, he's following his training. He's following his training. Well, then you realize there really is no training. And then I stumbled across an article where in 40 cases, ICE agents are putting chokehold
on human beings and that is a band tactic.
Chapter 3: What alarming statistics did the journalist find about ICE recruitment?
And like every law enforcement, you cannot do chokeholds and they're doing it routinely. So is that their training? Are they being trained in band tactics? And then I came across this and this really spoke to who these people are. There was a 16 year old American citizen that was with his father. I put him in a chokehold
and this is according to ProPublica, they put him in a chokehold, stole his phone, And then when he went to go retrieve his phone, they said they didn't have it. And he later found it in a vending machine for used electronics.
So it appears that the ICE agents stole his phone and sold it and kept the money and did not give a shit that he was 16, that he was documented or that he was in a chokehold. adding insult to injury, they stole his fence. I mean, these are the bottom feeders of the world.
And so here is a video that was taken in Minneapolis, and I want Jennifer to comment on it because it's the arrogance and it tells you exactly who the people in ICE are.
I don't care what they told you. If you guys get in my way, I will arrest you. Sir, we're just observing. Please calm down. You're going to observe all you want.
I am observing. Do you see me in the way? I am, Beth.
You had anger issues as a kid, didn't you? Were your parents present? You should be ashamed of yourself, man. He is.
I love my job. Thank you.
You love your job? I can't believe I get paid for this. Really? I do this for free. Really, I get $200,000. I'm a physician assistant. How long did you go to school for that? I went to high school. I make $200,000. So that's who these people are.
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Chapter 4: How does the lack of background checks affect ICE's hiring practices?
This has been there. My experience in Oklahoma City, you guys, during Obama administrations, during Joe Biden administrations, when my son was playing AAU basketball,
white families with their little white darlings did not want their kids playing with black basketball players and this is within the last five to six years i experienced this stuff and so we have a fundamental problem of a country and messaging that we haven't linked
all of these human rights, and that we haven't really taken over the finish line, that we are a multi-faced, multicultural society that embraces that. We incubate horrible, horrible foreign policy. If you look at Vietnam, if you look at all of the regime changes in the Middle East, all of the regime changes in Latin America, and then all of a sudden they shoot these fishermen, we're like,
oh my God, the United States shot people in the Caribbean. The United States has been doing that shit forever. And so it's important as we call out how the mask is off with this administration while the mask is on ice. It's important that we really talk historically about how all of this has been incubated.
And our European listeners and international listeners, they've seen it because they haven't been inside the arrogant American media ecosystem. And they've seen this American arrogance and they've seen the brutality towards black people and the injustice and the mistreatment of it. But the one thing I don't know how to do
I don't know how to teach people empathy because these people, the third of Americans that vote for this man, that triple Trump, that see the shooting of Renee Good and think that that is warranted and that there was some somebody's life was in danger when she got shot in the face.
they have no empathy they do not care about other human beings and i don't know how else how you get take somebody who claims to be this uber religious person and when it comes to caring for marginalized people for human rights they simply don't they simply do not care if you mention to these people like
Hey, you know, this poor kid lives in this rural town and he's, you know, he's gay and his family's mean to him and his church is mean to him. Want to know that doesn't affect me. I don't know. I culturally, morally don't know how you get people to care for other people.
No, I don't either. And I, to kind of piggyback off what you were saying, the triple Trumpers overwhelming majority, 80% of evangelical white Christians voted for Trump. I grew up in that world. I grew up in a family like that. I grew up in a community like that. Racism was so ingrained until I got around other people outside of my community. I didn't even know it was racism.
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Chapter 5: How does the podcast discuss the implications of ICE's actions on civil liberties?
And then we allow them to get away with that instead of saying, well, wait a minute, Donna. You sure don't say that stuff around black people, but you sure have no problem saying around me. You certainly know it's racist because you self-regulate your speech. And that's kind of, it's deeper, but I think it's something that I've noticed a lot about white people.
They claim they're not racist, yet they still regulate their speech depending upon which crowd they're around.
No, I can confirm that, absolutely. And I think the only, in terms of teaching empathy, you have to have a diverse culture where these people never are around anybody but white people and they all share the same opinion. That's why diversity is so important. That's why appreciating multiculturalism is so important because these people are around a homogenous group.
And then something that I just, I'm super anxious to see the results of, there was a huge ICE data breach. So after the shooting of Renee Goode and all the fuckery that ICE is doing and so many questions, who are these people? Are they white supremacists? How are they trained? So... A leak was made of up to 45 names, numbers, identifying markers, contact of these ice workers.
And this site says, we're going to release this. And what I'm anxious to see is how do you link the people that work?
now employed by ice what is their background what's their criminal record what's their history online are they radical white supremacists those kind of things so we have a site that's going to go do all this they're going to do the hard work for us and i'm anxious to hear that so then on the heels of this site saying we're going to make an announcement they were cyber attacked
And the iScoons founder said the website was overwhelmed by malicious web traffic after the Daily Beast reported that a huge cache of personal IDs had been leaked to the site. Here's the thing. I read online and in this article, right here it says, massive iScoons ID halted by cyber attack from... Russia. So my first thought was, why would Russia care?
Russia wants the United States of America to continue to pull itself apart. They don't have to come in and do anything because we're creating our own civil war between factions. And I just thought, again, Russia is controlling so much of our policy. You know, they've got Donald Trump because they've got the picture and video or whatever, but they have a vested interest in
in the United States of America, just fighting against itself. I thought that was all stunning.
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