The Shelf Life of a Pop Star
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We used to have one-hit wonders. Like, we used to, as a culture, like, have one-hit wonders.
People would have a song or two, and we'd never hear from them again. And we never wondered where they were. And you know what?
I love those one-hit wonders.
In this hectic music landscape, there's always talk about flop eras and streaming numbers and the infamous Kia Asylum. But if I'm being real, I'm wondering what happened to the one hit wonder? What happened to enjoying when someone really captured the sound of the moment and then moving on? My esteemed guest today has some insight into why this expectation has changed. Music writer Britney Spanos, also known as Britpop on Substack, has zeroed in on the millennial zeitgeist artist. Think about acts like Lizzo or Katy Perry who had a defining sound in the 2010s but can't seem to find that same traction now. Are we seeing a generational shift in music or with legacy acts like Madonna making a comeback?
I wonder, what is the secret recipe to pop star staying power? Brittany joins the show to help me figure it all out. Brittany, welcome back to It's Been a Minute. Thanks for having me. Hello, hello.
Why are millennial-era pop stars like Lizzo and Katy Perry losing cultural traction?
I'm Brittany Luce, and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR, a show about what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident.
I am really excited to dig into some big existential questions we've been having in pop music recently, of which you are an expert. But I want to start by talking about something that is a favorite of yours. You've written a lot about millennial zeitgeist artists, and I want to dig into... one in particular people have been talking and thinking a lot about lately, even if they haven't been listening to this person's music, and that's Lizzo. You know, in light of the abysmal performance, frankly, of her most recent album, which is called Bitch, it sold less than 3,000 copies in its first week. And if you compare that to the 69,000 copies that, you know, her last album sold in its first week, that's a big drop-off.
I mean, Lizzo used to be everywhere. But now... as much like she is famous yes like we also know who she is yes but she's not as culturally omnipresent or dominant as she was before a lot of people are theorizing as to why no one is buying her music you know even Lizzo herself like she recently went on the Swiftologist like video interview show It seems like she's trying to maybe perhaps own what might seem like a public failure, but through like kind of trying to control the narrative. But something about it just feels kind of off. But I wonder, like, why do you think she's fallen out of favor?
Lizzo had been a performing artist for years before Truth Hurts and Good As Hell came out. She was in more of the underground music scene in Minneapolis. She was one of Prince's collaborators towards the end of his life. She was someone who had been hustling for a long time. And the reason why people fell in love with her at that time was not only, it was before even Truth Hurts took off. You know, we, I remember watching this kind of wave of virality with her, with kind of her funny videos and that personality kind of popping out. And she was like charming and cool and like had cool fashion. And also like, she didn't look like every other pop star. Like she, to a lot of people was a representation of something that we don't see in, in music, which is a larger bodied woman generally, but a larger bodied black woman being sexy and like,
dancing and like not just like standing in a gown and like singing the way that we kind of see a lot of women who are plus size in pop culture and music perform. So, you know, there was something really powerful and radical about that.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–1:36
2
Why are millennial-era pop stars like Lizzo and Katy Perry losing cultural traction?
1:36–10:08
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How did Lizzo’s rise and recent album sales illustrate changing pop dynamics?
10:08–19:49
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What role did controversy and brand shifts play in Lizzo’s decline?
19:49–26:19