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I've Had It

Cut the Apron Strings

Thu, 02 Jan 2025

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We've infiltrated the college mom Facebook groups, and it's even scarier than you imagined. Pre-order our new book, join our Patreon Cult, and more by clicking here: https://linktr.ee/ivehaditpodcast. Thank you to our sponsors: eHarmony: Get started with their compatibility quiz, so you can find someone you can be yourself with. Download the app and get who gets you on eharmony. Follow Us:  I've Had It Podcast: @Ivehaditpodcast Jennifer Welch: @mizzwelch Angie "Pumps" Sullivan: @pumpspumpspumpsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Chapter 1: What grievances do the hosts have with online shopping?

29.446 - 50.019 Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

What I've had it with, and this is partly I've had it with me, but I'm so tired of buying stuff off Instagram that doesn't work like they act like it's going to work. And specifically, I have a For You page that is nothing but French Bulldogs. That's all it is. And I scroll over, and it's all these things that French Bulldogs can play with.

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50.639 - 66.969 Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

So I now have a room in my house dedicated to these toys for dogs that don't do what they're supposed to do. Right. And the problem is... You have to return it, but there's nowhere to return it. It's a fly-by-night deal.

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67.009 - 81.604 Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

So I've had it with fly-by-night ads, but then I've had it with myself for always taking the bait and just buying stupid shit that I should know beyond a reasonable doubt is not going to work like they are acting like it's going to work.

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81.705 - 81.965 Unknown

Yeah.

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82.205 - 88.049 Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

So it's part grievance on myself and part grievance with false advertising. Who do you think is more at fault?

Chapter 2: How do societal pressures affect working mothers?

88.57 - 113.35 Jennifer Welch

You. I do, too. I hate to say it. Because we've all fallen prey to this. And the first time you order some item that they've made some sleek video for and you think, oh, my God, my dog would like that. Or, oh, my God, that blouse is so cute. And then it directs you to the website. It seems a little sketch. And then it takes four weeks to get to your house, which is a super-duper red flag.

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114.231 - 127.504 Jennifer Welch

And then you learn, oh, this was a racket. So to keep going back and doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result – That's what therapists call the definition of insanity.

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127.764 - 138.251 Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

I know. And I've got to do better. But I just, I think, oh my God, my little puppy would love that if it worked. And of course it never does. So that's on me. I think you're right. I agree. I'm the problem.

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138.451 - 164.218 Jennifer Welch

You got to get, there's some monthly services you can sign up for where they deliver vetted items. Oh, they're vetted. For your dog. Reliable sources. Yeah. Because I'm all for spoiling the canines. All right. Let me tell you what I've had it with. Okay. The phrase mama heart. Somebody said it to me recently. And I was talking about, because our travel schedule can be so rigorous.

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164.899 - 186.188 Jennifer Welch

And I was talking about, like, you know, I'm trying to juggle my son's needs with my work schedule. And I've had to do that throughout my kid's entire life because I've always been the primary breadwinner. And it's just, it's a struggle. And, you know, to make ends meet and meet everybody's demands, plus fulfill your career. And it's just always been a big struggle in adulthood.

187.228 - 216.526 Jennifer Welch

And this woman said to me, yeah, that just really pulls on your mama heartstrings. And I just want to be like, okay, shut up. Right. Like I'm being an adult and I'm talking about an adult reality that a lot of working women face this walking this tightrope of. I'm working, I have this career, but then also all of this societal pressure that this is what an ideal mother looks like.

216.607 - 242.11 Jennifer Welch

This is what an ideal mother does. This idealized motherhood. And I feel like that whole mama heart branding is a part of that. Like you'll see these moms, I've never missed one of my kids' activities. And I always think, what a luxury, right? That must be because I've missed several of my kids' activities because I had a career and I have a career that pays me very well.

242.23 - 264.948 Jennifer Welch

I've never had help from a husband or parents. It's all been me. I mean, at times where my husband was you know had severe problems with addiction and whatnot but it think about women that are divorced or have never married and they have a couple of kids and they work a couple of jobs right to make

267.441 - 278.426 Jennifer Welch

to make do in their life and how debilitating it would be to hear all of this idealized mothering all the time and to be around all the insufferable power moms all the time. Yeah.

Chapter 3: What is the issue with helicopter parenting in college?

562.987 - 588.543 Jennifer Welch

That is so cool. That makes me just so happy. I would like to commend both of those reviewers because I've noticed for taking part and going over to Apple, not being a lackluster listener, for giving us five stars, giving us very thoughtful, helpful, interesting reviews. Snarky. I've noticed a little stall out in the reviews clicking upwards. I have too. I do. I've noticed, haven't you, Kathy?

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588.663 - 592.104 Jennifer Welch

Yeah. This makes me very angry and it hurts my mama heart.

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592.124 - 598.026 Kathy

It's hard for me because I need content. So give me content. Right. Here's the deal on that.

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599.787 - 610.311 Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

If you review, I've had a podcast, as we've seen, there are rewards. for you, i.e., to fall in love. We're pushing love.

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610.331 - 633.39 Jennifer Welch

The reviews of I've Had It podcast are like the prosperity gospel. They are. In evangelical Christianity. You give the money to the megachurch preacher. The megachurch preacher gets a shit ton of money, a nice house, and a private plane. You give the review to the I've Had It podcast. Our mama hearts are full. Right. Kylie has content. And you're going to get better content because we are old.

633.57 - 654.741 Jennifer Welch

We are haggard. Pumps is a whore. All of these things are true. We are produced by an overqualified lesbian. We're insecure. We're train wrecks. We think we're going to face plant any minute. Give us the five-star reviews. God damn it. What other women our age are out here cussing their hearts out doing this shit day in, day out? Listen up. Patriots, Gators.

655.621 - 658.843 Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

Fucking A. Let's get on there. Let's review, review, review.

659.343 - 681.724 Jennifer Welch

Do y'all want us to get on camera without Botox? No, is the answer to that. Do you want Pops to get out here? Yeah, you want Kylie to get her hair color done? Right. Pops has got these new extensions she's got to keep in check. She gets these eyelash things. I get a little Botox. Thank God today's eyelash day. I mean, for fuck's sake. For fuck's sake.

681.804 - 708.517 Jennifer Welch

It takes a lot of fucking money to look this bad. I've had it. Had it. Listener, this may come as a total shock to you, but Pumps and I have not always been this pulled together and rock solid. In fact, we used to be rather screwed up when you say Pumps. I would say damn near psychotic. Totally. And we have written a cell phone expose. One could even say it's a manifesto.

Chapter 4: How should parents handle their adult children's problems?

854.623 - 875.82 Jennifer Welch

There's a larger point here. It's not her business. It's not her business. She doesn't know it. As a parent, you tell the child, that's the water that they have, darling. Welcome to adulthood. Right. It's not perfect. Mommy can't fix everything. That's the end. This is where you're going to school. This is the water that they have. There's nothing I can do about it. Quit bitching to me about it.

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876.861 - 899.35 Jennifer Welch

That's just a pussy kid, for sure. Okay. Well, because his mother has taught him how to be a pussy. She's an able pussyism. All right. Another... Broken Mama Heart posts, would anyone know if someone has a bedroom or couch to rent occasionally? My son is living in a cold room at a frat with 25-ish other boys and isn't getting any sleep.

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899.751 - 915.492 Jennifer Welch

Woke up Wednesday night with someone climbing into bed with him because the person was so drunk they couldn't find their own bunk. It wouldn't be every night, but just when he really needs to get some sleep. I know this is a strange request, but he asked me to ask about it on Facebook.

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915.872 - 930.692 Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

Thanks. Wow. First of all, I can solve this problem. It's called a hotel. It's not that hard. It just, that misses the point. No, I know, but these are how dumb they are that they're putting this on the internet. Like, solve your own fucking problems.

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930.732 - 951.626 Jennifer Welch

Telling your child to get a hotel is in the exact same library, in the exact same book that creates these titty babies. What you say is... I'm sorry. This is what college life is about. You're going to have to draw boundaries with your friends. I can't fix this. And I'm not going to embarrass you or myself by putting it on Facebook. This is when you have to learn conflict resolution skills.

951.966 - 956.488 Jennifer Welch

And I'm not a part of your resolution because I don't go to school there. And that isn't my room. And that isn't my bunk.

956.508 - 964.831 Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

See, my thing is, I mean, it's embarrassing to put that on the internet. I mean, that's embarrassing. It's embarrassing for the kid. And do you think the kid really asked her to put it on fucking Facebook?

965.359 - 965.779 Jennifer Welch

I don't know.

Chapter 5: What are the signs of over-involvement in children's education?

966.239 - 966.94 Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

Oh, my God.

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967.1 - 997.799 Jennifer Welch

I'm so horrified about this. All right. Another one says, is it too much to ask the college to install cameras in my child's dorm room? I just want to make sure they're sleepy enough and staying on top of their cleaning and laundry. It's hard to trust. They'll remember everything on their own. And before anyone worries about roommate privacy, he is in a single room. That's psychotic. It is.

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998.519 - 1018.337 Jennifer Welch

That is psychotic. It doesn't surprise me, though. It doesn't surprise me because I've been involved in the high school. Right now, I have a high school senior and I've seen what these parents are doing. And I am waving my arms in the group me saying, why are we involved in this? We're not going to the dance. Why aren't the kids doing this? So.

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1019.037 - 1033.748 Jennifer Welch

Nobody is putting any guardrails on this unhinged helicopter mothering. And it's all these kids have known their entire life. So it's normal to the kids. And these moms then segueing and extending this on into college makes perfect sense to me.

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1033.768 - 1052.84 Jennifer Welch

I mean, these are the moms that are in there decorating their boy, their son's lockers, decorating their locker rooms, making sure everything is at the high school, that they're up there, that they're knee deep and all of it. Yeah. This type of dysfunction just doesn't end overnight. It's a cancer that continues.

1053.76 - 1064.465 Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

Yeah. Can you imagine dating or being married to that person's child? How horrible of a mother-in-law. I mean, that's psychotic. She wants to spy. Basically, she wants to spy on her kid.

1066.085 - 1089.878 Jennifer Welch

It's gross. It's fucking gross. I remember when Dylan, my oldest son, was a freshman in high school and he was going on a trip to New York City. And I went to the parent meeting because my kid was like 14 and I'm sending him to New York. And I trusted they'd done the trip every year. I didn't have any questions. The guy opens it up to questioning.

1090.458 - 1112.293 Jennifer Welch

And this one mother asks about what their potential 9-11 plan is if New York City goes under attack. She wasn't satisfied with his answer. And then she said, do you think it would be possible for me to go and stay at the same hotel but just act like I don't know you guys? To which the teacher, to his credit, said, that's not the point of this trip. Right.

1112.713 - 1134.872 Jennifer Welch

The point of this trip is to take the kids to New York to introduce them to the museums, opera, and the arts without their parents noticing. You know, this need to rebel against their parents. So it just this doesn't surprise me very much. You just been through the biggest helicopter toxic codependent shit show with your youngest. You bitched about it nonstop on this very podcast.

Chapter 6: Why is it important to cut the apron strings?

1238.107 - 1258.352 Jennifer Welch

As when your child is a senior, it is about them really advocating for themselves and managing their schedule, doing all of their shit. It is getting crazy how involved the parents are. I see parents more involved in my son's senior year class than I did when they were in kindergarten.

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1258.893 - 1268.301 Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

Yeah, it's on steroids. And it just wasn't like that when we were young. It just simply wasn't. We were latchkey kids. Right. I mean, I know. My mom never came up to school.

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1268.321 - 1287.783 Jennifer Welch

We rode a bus when we were like six and you had to walk several blocks to get to the bus stop. By yourself. You had a key and you went to school and then you came home. Right. And you let yourself in, made your snack. There's no cell phone. And then your parents typically didn't even call you and you'd see them when they'd roll home later. Right.

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1287.923 - 1309.612 Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

I mean, it just this whole thing about the parents being super involved. I truly believe most of the schools hate it. The school administration hates it. My guess is the kids hate it. And I think that the parents just do not have enough in their own lives that are going on that they have to make their kids' life their life.

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1309.672 - 1332.451 Jennifer Welch

And it's fucked up, in my opinion. I agree. I think it's super fucked up. Okay, here's another one. Hello, my son is really into chess. He's going to be an aerospace engineering... who's trying out for a trumpet position in the AAMB and staying in Tarkington. If anyone else's child is interested in chess or would like to be, please reach out. I'll share his info.

1332.551 - 1340.997 Jennifer Welch

He plays online as well, and he's pretty good. He's always looking for a challenge, and this is a great way for kids who need to meet some new friends to get together.

1342.66 - 1356.388 Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

Oh, God. I mean, here's the deal. I have no doubt why that child doesn't have any people that he meets on his own. I mean, mystery solved. That poor child. I mean, I feel sorry for these kids.

1356.608 - 1386.621 Jennifer Welch

I really do. Where does everyone send their kids to get quarters for the machines? Yeah. We don't have access to the app and need quarters. The dorm office doesn't have a trade system. We tried Target and Walmart, but they said no. We even tried two local banks and the other bank, and they said no. I'm speechless. Here's what I would do. Well, I have a kid that's been in Syracuse, New York.

1386.661 - 1412.777 Jennifer Welch

He's starting on his fourth year. I'm just I have never communicated with anybody at Syracuse University ever, ever, ever. I don't even see his grades. They don't mail them to me because he's a legal adult. I have to ask him. That's right. Dylan, will you please take a screenshot of your grades and send it to me before I pay this tuition so I can vet that you're doing what you say you're doing?

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