#445 – Vivek Ramaswamy: Trump, Conservatism, Nationalism, Immigration, and War

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Lex Fridman 0:00
The following is a conversation with Vivek Ramaswamy about the future of conservatism in America. He has written many books on this topic, including his latest called Truths, The Future of America First. He ran for president this year in the Republican primary and is considered by many to represent the future of the Republican party. Before all that, he was a successful biotech entrepreneur and investor with a degree in biology from Harvard and a law degree from Yale. As always, when the topic is politics, I will continue talking to people on both the left and the right with empathy, curiosity, and backbone. And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor. Check them out in the description.
Lex Fridman 0:46
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Lex Fridman 1:40
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Lex Fridman 2:31
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Lex Fridman 3:36
Anyway, the performances in the movie reveal the various manifestations of insanity, including the insanity of the people running the institutions. There's all kinds of insanities that humans are capable of. Why do I say this? I believe talking is one of the ways to reverse engineer how the insanity came to be in the first place. I would have loved to be inside on Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and talk to those characters and talk to those human beings. In fact, I gravitate towards people with that kind of complexity in their mind. You know, when I traveled across the country, and in general when I travel, I gravitate towards people like the homeless people outside of 7-Eleven and have a genuine, nonjudgmental, just open-hearted conversation with them. I like talking to regular people. I like talking to people who, I don't know, do something real for a living. And I don't mean to judge sort of white-collar and...

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