Ep 536 - The Program (feat. James Fox)
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James Fox, welcome. Thank you so much for coming on, man.
Thanks for having me on.
You have your new documentary, The Program, I believe.
Yes, it dropped today. Dude, that's crazy. Dropping right now.
How about the timing, dude? You couldn't have planned that better with the goddamn fucking...
I literally had an Air Force colonel text me, and he goes, so what's up with the promotion? You managed to get a full-on alien invasion on the release of your film. How did you coordinate that?
Hey, man, there's just larger forces at play, so that's all that is.
Yeah, no, I welcome it. I mean, you know, within reason. Yeah, for sure. I don't want people to panic.
Yeah, well, dude, here's all. So to be honest, I was watching the documentary last night and I was I was just like on the way to a holiday party and I just I got really stoned from a vape pen. I haven't been smoking like that. And I was just like launched and I started watching your documentary and I got like I started bugging out. I started thinking about just the vastness of the cosmos and just kind of the, you know, the inevitability of there's got to be some other sort of consciousness there. or life form out there. And it's like, I was bugging. I was like with my wife and I was like, they turned it off.
I'm freaking out right now.
What point did you turn it off? When we got to that, the NASA conference or before?
It was before that. But we were, I just started thinking about it because there was all, it was all these like, you know, there's these like Congress meetings and all these people. And it was like the line that, I don't know if it was from that or someone said it, but it's like, why would these people put their credibility at risk for no reason?
No. Yeah. No.
Come on.
there's a there there yeah so it's like and so you know just tell us a little bit about the documentary how did you get into all that and like what did you what kind of like launched you into identifying uh the uaps now not ufos yeah well yeah so yeah ufos unidentified flying objects and it went to uap unidentified aerial phenomenon and then it because they're coming in and out of the oceans as well they changed it to unidentified anomalous phenomenon that's where we're at right now
To me, it's like they're just making it harder and harder to say to obscure the truth. That's what I'm coming. It's like you unidentified on alarm. I can't even say it.
So I'm like, now I'm out of the race. You know, and UFOs had a bit of baggage. There was always sort of that knee jerk reaction when you mentioned UFO. So I think they wanted to kind of, you know, steer away from that. Yeah, get into the UAP stuff. And it's really funny. I think it was today or it was last night. Senator Schumer, Senate Majority Leader Schumer, is being hammered in the press. I don't know if you've seen it yet or not. And the guy's like, you don't know what it is. Therefore, it's a UAP. You wrote the legislation. Don't you remember? He's like, well, we don't know what they are. Therefore, it's a UAP.
He was probably so blazed when he wrote the legislation.
They want to say drones because UAP has people freaking out. Charged, yeah. And it's so funny, too, because they're going... Well, we have absolutely no idea what it is, but everyone's fine. Everything's safe. There's nothing to worry about here. Sure. So there are just like tons of drones popping up and everyone's freaking out because nobody knows whose they are. I initially, you know, on first look, I was like, oh, it sounds, you know, conventional because, you know, UAP demonstrated technology that sort of light years advancement anything we have. But then I started doing a little deeper dive, and I'm hearing reports that they're evading the military, radar, FLIR. They go dark. Oh, really? They have a loiter time of hours and hours and hours.
Then the Coast Guard reported being followed over the ocean. I mean, just something weird is going on. I don't know exactly what it is or who's behind it, but people are scratching their heads.
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