Ep 620 - In Defense of Sunlight (feat. Rowan Jacobsen)
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What is the significance of sunlight in our lives?
wild wild west hey welcome to matt and shane secret podcast i'm here today with rowan jacobson what's up man how you doing i'm doing great i'm happy to be here i've been awaiting this i i've if you guys don't know i have a little booking service that you know throw me guest ideas i saw the sunlight book and i was like i gotta gotta talk to you i i happen to be deep in uh What is it called? Heliotherapy, you call it. Just get in the sunlight. Yeah, I'm a big sunlight guy right now. As you can see, my nose, I'm like, I have, I'm bad with it though. This is like three days of sunburn on sunburn. So I just keep going deeper and deeper into it and I'll be fine. But yeah, I'm a huge proponent of sunlight, man.
It's the best. Because I was telling you, I grew up on the East Coast, Northeast. And just those winters would crush me, man. When I read the beginning of your book, when you're saying how you're just like, you know, you're in Vermont and you're just like, no matter what you do in the winter up there, you literally don't feel the sun touch your skin. And then after, it just makes me like, I really do get like, ugh, thinking about it. And yeah, ever since I've been down here, these hot summers, I'm like still having complaints.
How does sunlight affect mental health and well-being?
Like people are like, oh, it's too hot. I'm like, you have no idea what the lack of light feels like, man. It's horrible.
I think about it because, yeah, like you say, those winters, they're crushing, especially after a while. And, yeah, down here, you're like, wow, you could just be cruising around in shirts and shorts and a T-shirt like most of the year, essentially, right? Yeah. So that makes a huge difference.
All year round if you're a fat white guy, apparently. Fat white guys. Or a teenager.
I mean, even in Vermont, you see the teenagers waiting at the bus stop. It's like 10 degrees below zero and they're in their shorts.
Really? Yeah, that is kind of weird.
Yeah.
What are the dangers of excessive sun exposure?
Or, or they, they're, I noticed with teenagers, they're either it's that shorts when it's freezing or it's like a hoodie when it's hot. And you're like, what do you guys tell you guys doing? But you know, I guess that's what they do. So yeah. How long? So, okay. Just give me the whole thing. Like you, what is your background? Cause I've watched interviews with you. I would say you're Dr. Smart. You sound Dr. Smart, but I don't see that the MD or P or so what is your background?
I'm, yeah, no, I'm like a word guy. I've been like made my living as a writer for, yeah, like 25, 30 years. Like started in book publishing and I did a little bit of ghost writing. And then at some point I was like,
How does sunlight contribute to vitamin D production?
I'm sick of this. I don't want to fix other people's words. I may as well just do my own words.
I feel like ghostwriting is dastardly. I'm a big co-author guy. If someone's going to help you with your book, hit them with the co-author. There's no shame. I would feel so weird, which is funny because I would in school cheat on all my tests, but writing a book, the ghostwriting thing freaks me out. I don't like it, man. Just give that person credit if they ghostwrite or hire them as an editor, something, but the ghostwriter thing is I get the heebie-jeebies around that.
Yeah, totally. And sometimes I did get credited as a co-author. That's nice. Sometimes they didn't want my name anywhere on there. Right.
What are the historical perspectives on sunlight and health?
We won't name names.
Yeah, I can't name those names. No. J.K. Rowling, no. He wrote the Harry Potters. I wrote them all, actually. Like, now the world knows.
But no, yeah. So that seems like that would be frustrating, where you're like, damn it, I did the thing.
It was actually, you know, like as a beginning writer, it was actually the perfect first step because your ego was not... in it like yeah you were not going to get recognized as a thing so in terms of just like practicing your writing it was like playing that's nice yeah so in retrospect i realized that was a good way to start because i was like oh this is fun no one's gonna know whether i screw it up or get it right true uh but then at some point after a while you're like i think i know how to do this i just want to do it for myself yeah that's cool so and that started what was your like
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the significance of sunlight in our lives?
0:00–1:05
2
How does sunlight affect mental health and well-being?
1:05–1:38
3
What are the dangers of excessive sun exposure?
1:38–2:15
4
How does sunlight contribute to vitamin D production?
2:15–2:51
5
What are the historical perspectives on sunlight and health?
2:51–3:44
6
How does sunlight influence our immune system?
3:44–4:32
7
What surprising facts about oysters and sunlight are shared?
4:32–5:05
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What future trends in light therapy are emerging?
5:05–1:04:30