Part Two: Cult Leaders Target You At Your Weakest. Never Confess This To Them | Rick Alan Ross

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Mayim Bialik 0:00
Hi, I'm Mayim Bialik, and I'm flying solo here today. Jonathan is away, but we're speaking to Rick Allen Ross, a private consultant and cult intervention specialist. He's the author of Cults Inside Out, How People Get In and Can Get Out. And Ross has been qualified, accepted, and testified as an We'll be right back. Is Donald Trump, is MAGA a cult? What about Tulsi Gabbard and the allegations surrounding the cult that she was raised in, which may be making its way into our government decisions and communication today? Rick is also going to talk to us about how many of the psychological mechanisms found in cults appear in everyday life, in our workplaces, in our relationships. There is so much to explore.
Mayim Bialik 1:07
Make sure to check us out on Substack as well. And here is part two of our conversation with Rick Allen Ross. break it down full disclosure I'm a bleeding heart liberal right so when you say psychopath I hear mental illness I hear that someone is suffering I hear that someone you know is in a different category and and I'm not saying that that's not accurate but when we start talking about malignant narcissism, and we start thinking about some of these personality characteristics, I cannot help it. My mind goes to relationships. And especially with the conversation on social media and how much, you know, you can diagnose this boyfriend or that girlfriend, right? These are terms that we're now throwing around very, very lightly.
Mayim Bialik 1:52
You're not using them lightly, and you're speaking about them from an appropriate clinical perspective. But, and... How many times do we see relationships where you are isolated? There's often some form of trauma bonding, right? Some sort of vulnerable connection point or, you know, a place to kind of get in. An overemphasis on someone's weaknesses. An insertion of this partner as, I'm going to fix you. I'm going to help you. Don't talk to those friends. Come hang out with me more. Read this book. Let's be together all the time. And it's couched in love. But it actually I mean, like, I don't know how to say it. How do you know if you are dating someone who is using coercive mind control and calling it love?
Mayim Bialik 2:47
What is the difference?
Rick Alan Ross 2:49
I have a chapter, as you know, in my book on abusive controlling relationships. And then there's an example of an intervention I did to get a young woman out of a relationship like that. The warning signs would be, look at the typical behavior of someone with narcissistic personality disorder and ask yourself, does this fit as a description of the person that I'm involved with? For example, Can they be wrong? Or when you point out a mistake or you criticize something they do, are they eventually going to have a meltdown if you persist? Are they gaslighting you? Are they making little critical remarks about what you do and say to undermine your confidence in your own ability to think for yourself? Are they are they going after your self-esteem?
Rick Alan Ross 3:47
Are they isolating you? Are they telling you, well, you know, we need to spend more time together. Why do you have to go see that girlfriend? Why do you have to spend so much time with your parents? Do they want you to be in their sphere of influence constantly and and And really, are they shutting other people out? And then I think it's important to ask yourself, what sacrifices has this person made in our relationship? In any relationship, people make sacrifices. You sacrifice your time. You don't go to this or that function in order to spend more time with a person. Maybe you even make a financial sacrifice. So the question I would ask is, is this person that you suspect might be someone with NPD, narcissistic personality disorder, and be an abusive controlling partner, have they made any sacrifices for you?
Rick Alan Ross 4:55
What are they? What sacrifices have you made for them? Let's weigh that out. And another thing, do they have a kind of These raging temper meltdowns, that engenders what we can call fear of disequilibrium. So in other words, the person who experiences their partner having a raging meltdown, screaming, carrying on,

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