"I Feel Guilty Asking For More Money. Am I Wrong? Coach Me!" with Claire Wasserman
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I'm Nicole Lappin, the only financial expert you don't need a dictionary to understand. It's time for some money rehab.
Hi, I'm Claire Wasserman, the founder and author of Ladies Get Paid, a podcast newsletter and coaching practice dedicated to helping women embrace their worth inside and out. I'm honored to be guest hosting for Nicole while she's out on maternity leave. And you've probably noticed that there's a few of us, although just a heads up, I'm a little bit different. Instead of interviewing my guests, I'm going to be coaching them. We have three women lined up, each one struggling in her relationship with work and money. You'll be calling in no camera on to protect their identity so that they can feel as comfortable as possible to share. Because I believe transparency can be transformative. When you see yourself in somebody else's journey, you realize.
You're not alone. And that can do so much in letting go of the shame that so many of us carry in regards to money. Today's guest is Danielle, who is really struggling to charge what she's worth. She has had a roller coaster of a relationship with money. Danielle has gone from making very little and being on food stamps to making over six figures, but being burnt out and getting burned. And now she runs her own business, a creative agency, but is seriously struggling to ask for more because in her words, she feels like. It's taking away from the people she wants to help. In this episode, we tackle the mindsets needed to not see things so much in black and white. I really urge Danielle to be able to see that many things can be true at once. You can do good and do well.
You can play the game and play it in a way that honors your values. I'm so curious to hear what you think about my advice. So comment below and don't forget to like and subscribe. Take a listen. Danielle, thank you so much for joining me today. And I know we've spoken already before, you know, you have some feelings about money as we all do, but in your own words, could you give me a little bit more context or details about where you're at in your relationship with money and how I can be most helpful and supportive to you today?
I think that money has always been like a little bit of a complicated topic. I grew up with like you know, my parents didn't have much money and they were in service oriented professions, like trying to help other people. And so money was kind of something that if you had a lot, then it was like egotistical or selfish and you weren't sharing with others. I feel like Saying that now sounds a little bit strange. I don't know if I have the best language for it still, but that is actually what I went to college. I went to college to try to be in a profession that was helping other people, but just really geared toward that. I knew I wasn't gonna be making money. I'm not actually in that profession. My life has taken a much different route.
But I did spend time post-grad. My first post-graduate job after my bachelor's degree, I only made $19,200 a year. And I also had a kid that year and spent time on food stamps, Medicaid, which truly saved my life because... I would be drowning in death if not, just due to a lot of unforeseen circumstances. I ended up in jobs where I was making six figures, worked my way up in the creative realm, mostly as a creative director at a tech company for my last full-time position until this past July when I was forced to go out on my own, but it was honestly the best nudge. I had been needing to quit the job that I was at for a while, but it was like the golden handcuffs. I made too much to feel like I could easily step away. And I was honestly too overwhelmed and stressed there to even thinking about doing something else. So I got hit in layoffs and that really propelled me into where I am now, which like I had begun by applying for a bunch of jobs and the jobs just weren't opening up. And my partner was like, well, what if you could actually do the thing that you wanted to do?
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