NEUROTYPE Versus DISORDER: Shifting the Paradigm-Jodi Carlton

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Neurodiverse Love with Mona Kay, MSW, Ph.D. 36 min 2 speakers 8 chapters transcribed 24 days ago
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Mona Kay 0:00
Welcome to the Neurodiverse Love Podcast. I'm Mona Kay and I was married for 30 years and in that relationship for 32. We didn't find out that we were a neurodiverse couple until our 29th year of marriage. I've been divorced since 2018 and together we have an amazing adult daughter who is thriving and doing fantastic. My hope is that as you navigate your relationship, But the information shared in this podcast will help you better understand the strengths, differences, and challenges you may have in your mixed neurotype relationship. If you would like to learn more about the resources I have available, I hope you will also check out my website at neurodiverselove.com. And I also hope you will subscribe to the podcast and let me know what you like about each episode.
Mona Kay 0:51
Thank you so much for listening to the Neurodiverse Love Podcast. Hey, Jody. It's so good to see you again. And I always love our conversations. Always. Yeah, I'm really glad you could join us again at the Neurodiverse Love Conference.
Jodi Carlton 1:07
Well, I'm just glad you're doing it again. You know, I was bugging you about that and you didn't do it last year and I bugged you. So I'm really glad you're doing it again this year. Yeah,
Mona Kay 1:16
me too. We have so many great presentations. So today you're gonna talk about neurotype versus disorder, shifting the paradigm. And I, you know, we always have some great conversations, but I'm gonna ask a few questions and I'm sure we'll dialogue and do our ADHD thing, right, Jody? Oh, so I'm gonna kick off with the first question. So why is neurodivergence something we currently diagnose as a mental disorder? Thank you, DSM.
Jodi Carlton 1:52
Right. Well, and we really have to go back in time to look at how it even came about that that we're looking at this as a disorder in the DSM. So I think this is such an important conversation to have because this paradigm needs to start sh it's already started shifting. Yes. But we need to really shift it more in terms of public awareness and even even in the the psychological and psychiatric community, because what we're understanding more and more about neurodiversity is is that that there is more of a neurotype. This is a neurotype thing versus a disorder. So so first we have to look at when we think about why why is it even considered a a disorder. I'm actually I've told you, I've shared with you, I'm writing a book on this entire topic, this topic of the paradigm shift right now.
Jodi Carlton 2:40
So In as part of that, and if if any if you want to do a deep dive or look at a deep dive, then keep an eye out for that book. But um we look at how mental illness or mental disorders have evolved over time. And without getting into all the details, you know, first we we look as a human race, culturally and our social expectations, we kind of look for people, we look for sameness and and people, human beings, you you you're a social worker and and so, you know, sociologically we look for you know, birds of the feather flock together kind of thing. And so thing people or traits that are I outliers are more noticeable and or and sometimes uncomfortable to people. So just going back in time as a human race, we started noticing
Jodi Carlton 3:30
these differences as outliers and And as a human race, sometimes we also try to make it stop. So we want w you know, we want We want those differences to not be there because it's it can make people feel uncomfortable because it's a deviation from the norm. And so as the field of psychology and psychiatry. developed and evolved. uh it started looking more at some of these outlier traits that were particularly problematic for people. Um and and really focusing more on the deficits than the strengths. So some of the things like like the executive functioning difficulties with the, you know, all the the Organizing task management. behavior, emotional regulation, all of those things that would would actually present themselves as problems.
Jodi Carlton 4:26
um the psychological community started looking at those things and label labeling them as problematic. And then we went like totally into a medical model for lots of reasons because the DSM, which you mentioned, is the diagnostic and statistic manual of mental health disorders.

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