How Did OpenAI Hack An Australian Government Website?

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What happened with the OpenAI‑driven hack of the Australian Medicare website?

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Adam Fleming 0:38
Hello, one of the intriguing things in the news in the last few weeks is that we've all become familiar with the word or the title really, Hugging Face. That is the website that was hacked by loads of bots or agents from OpenAI while they were on a mission. And it made the world wake up to what this technology was capable of doing. And it was interesting and it was a bit of a wake-up call, but it felt maybe a little bit remote. Now it feels much less remote because some open AI agents have done the same thing, but to the Australian healthcare system. The first time a government agency or arm of the state has been attacked in this way. So we will discuss the dramatic way the news came out and what it might mean for technology and security going forward in this episode of Newscast.
Adam Fleming 1:26
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Adam Fleming 1:49
Hello, it's Adam in the Newscast studio and in today's episode we're going to focus on this attack on the Australian healthcare system by some agents working for the technology company OpenAI and have assembled a crack duo of BBC experts to help us work our way through this story and its implications. Here in the studio is the BBC's technology and AI editor Zoe Kleinman. Hi Zoe.
Zoe Kleinman 2:11
Hello.
Adam Fleming 2:11
Another long day of AI coverage for you.
Zoe Kleinman 2:13
Yep, I'm at the coalface.
Adam Fleming 2:15
And please welcome Joe Tidy, our cybersecurity correspondent. Hello. Start bringing your coffee there. Old tech. I'm thinking we need to come up with a name for this dynamic duo of you two. I feel like you're sort of fighting this massive story together. Pinky and Brain. No, we need a more modern duo. Like, is there a modern duo? Yeah, Pinky and the Brain makes me
Joe Tidy 2:35
seem very, very old.
Adam Fleming 2:37
Because that was a cartoon when I was a kid. Yeah. Do you know what? We'll park that. If only there was a technology we could ask that could generate an answer. Anyway, right. So we all woke up to this news from Australia. Joe, where does this story actually start?
Joe Tidy 2:52
It starts on the 18th of June when an open AI agent hacked... the Australian medical system, Medicare. And it all started like a lot of these stories with an internal test that went wrong. So there was some sort of statistical analysis that these AI agents were tasked with by OpenAI to go off and do some research, some deep, deep research about Australia. And they found a website on the Medicare web system that gave them some details, but they wanted more. But that more was behind some sort of a barrier, maybe a login portal, that kind of thing. And the AI agents found a way to hop over that fence and gain access. Illegally, it is a cyber attack to breach that network.
Adam Fleming 3:36
And we'll go back to the timeline in a second. But Zoe, just explain to us what an agent actually is in this context.
Zoe Kleinman 3:42
So it's an AI product that is designed to do a particular task without you having to handhold it. So the idea is a bit like you, Adam. Let's say I say to you, right, I want you to go to the shops and bring me everything I need to make a spaghetti bolognese. I'm not going to come with you. I'm not going to walk you around the store. I'm not going to give you something to pay with.

How did the OpenAI agents manage to bypass the Medicare login barrier?

Zoe Kleinman 4:03
I'm not going to give you a plastic bag. That's all your job. And all I want you to do is deliver me the ingredients.
Chris Spirou 4:08
Yeah, just ask.
Zoe Kleinman 4:08
Exactly. Now, what is happening increasingly here, what we're seeing is that rather than, whereas you, I would hope, would say, oh, I haven't got any money, I need to go and get some money, not I'm going to therefore steal the goods or I'm going to take them out of somebody else's trolley because they've got the last tin of tomatoes and I need them.

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